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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Jan 15, 2022 17:41:12 GMT -5
The thirteenth point by geoffrey is: Now this one I will (mostly) give him, my OD&D worlds and most OD&D worlds are not worlds "in which you have to struggle simply to survive." But I have heard of OD&D worlds that are of that order of danger, but they are not common. OD&D can easily be run as post apocalyptic and IMO the implied world of OD&D is post apocalyptic, but where civilization has made a return and is a mostly stable footing. I do not know of any that are "Ye Olde Englande Ren Faire" in application.I can't recall any well know settings like this. I may be wrong, but I don't think so. There have been several "medieval" settings such as Pendragon (Arthurian tales), Chivalry & Sorcery (I think similar to Pendragon in many ways), and Lion & Dragon (medieval authentic) just to name a few. I'm not quite sure what he means by "Ye Olde Englande Ren Faire" type of game for the most part. I agree with you and besides none of those settings are D&D. I think maybe the "Ye Olde Englande Ren Faire" thing is that clearly the patrons of such an event are guests and tourist so for the most part nothing that is going on affects you. In some sense you are not there you are just the audience, who gets to eat and drink, but no "hazards" affect you. The only real exceptions would be a "Mud show" where you might get splashed with some mud or some such things.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Jan 15, 2022 17:42:47 GMT -5
I don't know Gamma World, but I would guess that this "Ren Faire" remark is a little like "Merrie England" as applied to Tolkien -- it's not to your taste, so it all seems like a kind of hokey show to you. While there is plenty of D&D stuff not to my taste, I'm not familiar with any "Ren Faire" settings, either. See my other reply right above this one, I think he must be referencing some specific campaign he has played in or heard stories of and not necessarily something published.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Jan 15, 2022 17:45:11 GMT -5
Also see point one above about the claim that there are no levels. Here is the XP system and as you can see there are indeed levels, just not named and operating differently that OD&D, but nevertheless, there are levels. Experience Points Required for Bonus ------------------------------------ 3,000 6,000 12,000 25,000 50,000 100,000 200,000 500,000 1,000,000 each additional 1,000,000 Die Roll Bonus -------- -------------------- 1 +1 point to mental strength 2 +1 point to constitution 3 +1 point to dexterity 4 +1 point to charisma 5 +1 point to physical strength 6 +1 point to intelligence 7- 8 +1 to hit in physical combat 9-10 +1 damage inflicted by non-energy weapon employed Yeah, it's just levels represented in a different manner. After thinking about this a bit more, I might consider porting those bonuses to OD&D. Add the higher starting hit points modified as I mentioned a few posts before this and add these bonuses could be a fun thing to do. Tweaking them just a tad for OD&D.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Jan 15, 2022 17:47:30 GMT -5
The fifteenth point by geoffrey is: There are some things in OD&D which have no saving throw, but generally he is right in regard to this. In fact, if I were running GW, that 500 meter radius would be at least a 5,000 meter, maybe a 10,000 meter radius. Also while I can still, mostly, think in metric and 40+ years ago I was fluent; if I were running it I would convert entirely back to standard units, unless I set my game outside the bounds of the USA since those are what would most likely have survived in memory or if something were to be created from scratch, it would be similar. While there may not be saving throws in Gamma World, was the Artifact Function Chart (or whatever it's called) in first edition? You could roll on this chart to try to figure out the function or use of an Artifact. I would think an unused neutron bomb would be considered an artifact. If you squint and give a little leeway that's a saving throw because you have a chance to figure out the use - or what NOT to do - to remain alive in that situation. Kind of a stretch but still. I agree, that is kind of a saving throw in a way, or a Lore Check that was added to D&D after the time of OD&D. Both are kind of a saving throw in a way.
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Post by True Black Raven on Feb 5, 2022 12:51:46 GMT -5
I like this:
The Knights of Genetic Purity (non-mutants wanting to kill all human mutants) and the Iron Society (mutants wanting to kill all non-mutated humans) are the Yin and Yang of that future world.
Ask yourself, which you would belong to? And why?
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Feb 5, 2022 21:03:19 GMT -5
I like this: The Knights of Genetic Purity (non-mutants wanting to kill all human mutants) and the Iron Society (mutants wanting to kill all non-mutated humans) are the Yin and Yang of that future world. Ask yourself, which you would belong to? And why? Neither the "pure" blood humans and the mutants should work together. Also doubtful how pure any humans really are at this point in time.
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Post by boarspear on Feb 6, 2022 23:07:19 GMT -5
I like this: The Knights of Genetic Purity (non-mutants wanting to kill all human mutants) and the Iron Society (mutants wanting to kill all non-mutated humans) are the Yin and Yang of that future world. Ask yourself, which you would belong to? And why? Neither the "pure" blood humans and the mutants should work together. Also doubtful how pure any humans really are at this point in time. That is what they should do, but it is not what they would do. Shame too, think about it....
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Feb 13, 2022 20:27:43 GMT -5
I thought the Gamma World 1E was only available as a pdf on DriveThruRPG. I see it is available as a softcover so it's now on my future purchase list. That's awesome news! I wish the 2nd edition was available as a softcover, but it is not. At least I'll have more of my old collection back and I will see if I can work up some Gamma World contributions to the fanzine.
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Post by Vladimir, The Dark Prince on Feb 20, 2022 22:36:47 GMT -5
TPD, when you get back to running games, you should run a Gamma World pbp game.
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Feb 21, 2022 3:18:04 GMT -5
TPD, when you get back to running games, you should run a Gamma World pbp game. Interested...
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