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Post by Chuck on Sept 17, 2018 20:22:17 GMT -5
Got a copy of the Uprising: The Dystopian Universe a few days ago from backing it on Kickstarter. Then I had time to watch the news tonight and thought, "What? It's already happening? How did I miss the memo?" A truly bizarre facepalm moment... Not sure what you saw in the news that was particularly relevant, but a google search including the date of 9/14/18 turned up this: Signs We Are Living In A Dystopia
I especially applaud Sign Number 1 - bureaucracy on steroids! It was everything. When I choose to spend time watching the news, I go through all of the news channels (and several overseas news channels) because they all present their own point of view (cough, bias) and by doing so I can usually ferret out what's actually going. It's not fear, because I don't put much stock in being fearful, but concern for the direction things seem to be going. However, I don't want to get into a discussion of that sort of thing here ("So dark! You must be from the DC Universe!"). My comment was intended to be more of a sarcastically humorous observation on the state of things. :-) |
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Post by Chuck on Sept 17, 2018 22:28:57 GMT -5
Hey, I'm learning a new programming environment so I'm taking the opportunity to build a Traveller Character Generator/Manager. I'm looking for folks to provide feedback and play around with it as I get done with pieces. Would anyone here be interested?
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Post by raikenclw on Sept 17, 2018 23:42:17 GMT -5
Hey, I'm learning a new programming environment so I'm taking the opportunity to build a Traveller Character Generator/Manager. I'm looking for folks to provide feedback and play around with it as I get done with pieces. Would anyone here be interested? You might try posting to the TML about this. A number of programmers are members. |
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Post by erisred on Sept 18, 2018 0:28:51 GMT -5
Hey Eris, Are you in the path of Florence? If so, it's time to batten down the hatches! Be safe. Chuck No, I'm just east of Pensacola Florida. Flo didn't get over here. If a storm gets into the Gulf of Mexico is when you can start to worry about me.  What we've been having is oppressive heat with several days of 100+ heat indexes plus bad air. With Flo to the northeast and a disturbance over Texas we've been stuck in between with a High that has provided HOT SINKING air that won't blow away. Normally, we get sea breeze in the afternoon to provide thunder storms and clear the air, but we've had the heat and humidity, but not the rain for a bit. It is suppose to revert back to a more normal pattern now that Flo is finally heading north. Thanks for the "batten down the hatches", thoughts, though. Eris |
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Post by Chuck on Sept 18, 2018 9:00:22 GMT -5
Although I'm sorry to hear about the heat (why I left the Dallas area for the Pacific Northwest), I'm glad to hear that Flo didn't have you on her dance card. :-)
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Sept 18, 2018 13:06:31 GMT -5
What part of the PNW are you at Chuck? I'm from the Portland metro-area of Oregon.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Sept 18, 2018 22:19:06 GMT -5
Yeah, anyone who is in harms way, take care of yourselves and let us know you are alright when you can. Sorry if I am holding up the show, I have been tied up for the past week or so. Glad to see you escaped! ;-) [See, I'm being sooooo good!] Yeah, I knew that pen knife would come in handy someday. |
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Post by Mighty Darci on Sept 18, 2018 22:27:23 GMT -5
Got a copy of the Uprising: The Dystopian Universe a few days ago from backing it on Kickstarter. Then I had time to watch the news tonight and thought, "What? It's already happening? How did I miss the memo?" A truly bizarre facepalm moment... Not sure what you saw in the news that was particularly relevant, but a google search including the date of 9/14/18 turned up this: Signs We Are Living In A Dystopia
I especially applaud Sign Number 1 - bureaucracy on steroids! That is depressing, no wonder the birthrate of educated people keeps falling. |
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Post by Chuck on Sept 19, 2018 16:20:54 GMT -5
What part of the PNW are you at Chuck? I'm from the Portland metro-area of Oregon. I'm near the lovely rain-drenched shores of Lake Washington near Seattle. |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Sept 19, 2018 17:31:15 GMT -5
What part of the PNW are you at Chuck? I'm from the Portland metro-area of Oregon. I'm near the lovely rain-drenched shores of Lake Washington near Seattle. I have family from my mom's side from Seattle but I haven't seen them in decades when I was either in my late teens or early twenties. |
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Post by raikenclw on Sept 20, 2018 1:03:20 GMT -5
Not sure what you saw in the news that was particularly relevant, but a google search including the date of 9/14/18 turned up this: Signs We Are Living In A Dystopia
I especially applaud Sign Number 1 - bureaucracy on steroids! That is depressing, no wonder the birthrate of educated people keeps falling. I'm not sure I see the connection between any of those 15 signs and the birthrate [more accurately, replacement fertility rate] of educated people, except maybe for #3 ("You're never going to be able to retire, so why should your boots?"). Births tend to be fewer and later among the educated because women have more options and are more aware of having such options. Births also tend to be fewer and later in richer societies, because children are a net economic cost rather than the net economic benefit they are in poorer ones (due to providing an increased labor pool for subsistence farming). |
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Post by Chuck on Sept 20, 2018 13:27:01 GMT -5
Hey, I'm learning a new programming environment so I'm taking the opportunity to build a Traveller Character Generator/Manager. I'm looking for folks to provide feedback and play around with it as I get done with pieces. Would anyone here be interested? You might try posting to the TML about this. A number of programmers are members. I'm actually starting to scout for end-users rather than programmers. For the most part, it will up being a lot of data entry on my part, but "I have my ways to get that done™️." However, it will no doubt get posted to the TML at some point in the future.  |
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Post by Chuck on Sept 20, 2018 13:29:36 GMT -5
That is depressing, no wonder the birthrate of educated people keeps falling. I'm not sure I see the connection between any of those 15 signs and the birthrate [more accurately, replacement fertility rate] of educated people, except maybe for #3 ("You're never going to be able to retire, so why should your boots?"). Births tend to be fewer and later among the educated because women have more options and are more aware of having such options. Births also tend to be fewer and later in richer societies, because children are a net economic cost rather than the net economic benefit they are in poorer ones (due to providing an increased labor pool for subsistence farming). My family is mostly scattered all over Oklahoma and Texas. My father asked why that I moved so far away from the family and I replied, "Well, think about it Dad." His response was "that's not funny." To which I replied, "Yup, but it sure does cut down on unanticipated drop-in visits."  I may have finally succeeded in getting removed from his will... |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Sept 20, 2018 13:56:51 GMT -5
I'm not sure I see the connection between any of those 15 signs and the birthrate [more accurately, replacement fertility rate] of educated people, except maybe for #3 ("You're never going to be able to retire, so why should your boots?"). Births tend to be fewer and later among the educated because women have more options and are more aware of having such options. Births also tend to be fewer and later in richer societies, because children are a net economic cost rather than the net economic benefit they are in poorer ones (due to providing an increased labor pool for subsistence farming). My family is mostly scattered all over Oklahoma and Texas. My father asked why that I moved so far away from the family and I replied, "Well, think about it Dad." His response was "that's not funny." To which I replied, "Yup, but it sure does cut down on unanticipated drop-in visits." I may have finally succeeded in getting removed from his will... I have relatives from Oklahoma, Kansas & Texas on my dad's side of the family, but we are not close. |
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Post by erisred on Sept 20, 2018 14:19:46 GMT -5
Folks, I have a couple of people that have contacted me about joining the game. Just a heads up that some fresh blood is about to join us over the next few days. |
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Post by erisred on Sept 20, 2018 16:57:11 GMT -5
Folks, I have a couple of people that have contacted me about joining the game. Just a heads up that some fresh blood is about to join us over the next few days. Joe Roberts is already on the forum, but hasn't posted anything in here yet. We're working on a character for him. Terry Mixon has a character ready to go, I think, but he's away from his computer on a trip until Monday or Tuesday so he won't be joining us before that. About the current NPC's that used to be PC's: Thazar de Verres (sp?) is exiting the crew here. There will be more about that in a new thread. Baltus is a passenger so I'll keep NPCing him until he exits at the next world. Doc Vargas I'm keeping as an NPC unless we get a player that wants to take on the Medic position. Eris |
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Sept 20, 2018 18:37:34 GMT -5
I'm not sure I see the connection between any of those 15 signs and the birthrate [more accurately, replacement fertility rate] of educated people, except maybe for #3 ("You're never going to be able to retire, so why should your boots?"). Births tend to be fewer and later among the educated because women have more options and are more aware of having such options. Births also tend to be fewer and later in richer societies, because children are a net economic cost rather than the net economic benefit they are in poorer ones (due to providing an increased labor pool for subsistence farming). My family is mostly scattered all over Oklahoma and Texas. My father asked why that I moved so far away from the family and I replied, "Well, think about it Dad." His response was "that's not funny." To which I replied, "Yup, but it sure does cut down on unanticipated drop-in visits." I may have finally succeeded in getting removed from his will... No wonder I didn't notice this before. I thought you said you were getting removed from his WELL, which was common enough in Ottawa County when I was growing up. |
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Post by Chuck on Sept 20, 2018 19:54:02 GMT -5
My family is mostly scattered all over Oklahoma and Texas. My father asked why that I moved so far away from the family and I replied, "Well, think about it Dad." His response was "that's not funny." To which I replied, "Yup, but it sure does cut down on unanticipated drop-in visits." I may have finally succeeded in getting removed from his will... No wonder I didn't notice this before. I thought you said you were getting removed from his WELL, which was common enough in Ottawa County when I was growing up. Heh, I'm sure there was a time or three that he had evil intentions but I earned his respect when I was 19 so I think it was mostly towards my, ahem, *errant* younger siblings. In all actuality, my Dad has a great (if somewhat twisted sense of humor) and is still going strong at 86. It's just not natural. ;-) |
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Post by Mighty Darci on Sept 23, 2018 19:29:45 GMT -5
That is depressing, no wonder the birthrate of educated people keeps falling. I'm not sure I see the connection between any of those 15 signs and the birthrate [more accurately, replacement fertility rate] of educated people, except maybe for #3 ("You're never going to be able to retire, so why should your boots?"). Births tend to be fewer and later among the educated because women have more options and are more aware of having such options. Births also tend to be fewer and later in richer societies, because children are a net economic cost rather than the net economic benefit they are in poorer ones (due to providing an increased labor pool for subsistence farming). Think about it from a women's perspective, if the world is going down in flames or famine or both is that the world I want to bring my children into? If freedom and choice are going away, then why. Maybe if you want to raise your children to be warriors, but then you would want them to reach adulthood and be able to fight, you wouldn't want things to implode when they were 6 or 10 or 14. Now if civilization were going to endure and I were rich, then I would want to have a lot of children and adopt dozens more to raise as many decent human beings as possible. |
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Post by raikenclw on Sept 24, 2018 1:47:33 GMT -5
I'm not sure I see the connection between any of those 15 signs and the birthrate [more accurately, replacement fertility rate] of educated people, except maybe for #3 ("You're never going to be able to retire, so why should your boots?"). Births tend to be fewer and later among the educated because women have more options and are more aware of having such options. Births also tend to be fewer and later in richer societies, because children are a net economic cost rather than the net economic benefit they are in poorer ones (due to providing an increased labor pool for subsistence farming). Think about it from a women's perspective, if the world is going down in flames or famine or both is that the world I want to bring my children into? If freedom and choice are going away, then why. Maybe if you want to raise your children to be warriors, but then you would want them to reach adulthood and be able to fight, you wouldn't want things to implode when they were 6 or 10 or 14. Now if civilization were going to endure and I were rich, then I would want to have a lot of children and adopt dozens more to raise as many decent human beings as possible. In both cases above, you are looking at the situation from the perspective of an EDUCATED woman. And in the second case, you are assuming that you will be financially capable of raising many children to adulthood in an increasing expensive environment. I can just barely support myself. Most of the females with children that I know personally are in the same financial boat. Most women in poorer cultures are not educated. In such cultures, if disaster looks to be on the horizon, more children are still better, for two reasons. The first reason I already stated: more children mean a larger available labor pool (even small children can help cultivate a garden and tend livestock). The second reason is that a larger number of children increases the odds that at least some of them will survive to adulthood and thus be available to support their parents, if/when said parents become old and infirm. |
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Post by Mighty Darci on Sept 24, 2018 10:38:29 GMT -5
I'm not sure I see the connection between any of those 15 signs and the birthrate [more accurately, replacement fertility rate] of educated people, except maybe for #3 ("You're never going to be able to retire, so why should your boots?"). Births tend to be fewer and later among the educated because women have more options and are more aware of having such options. Births also tend to be fewer and later in richer societies, because children are a net economic cost rather than the net economic benefit they are in poorer ones (due to providing an increased labor pool for subsistence farming). Think about it from a women's perspective, if the world is going down in flames or famine or both is that the world I want to bring my children into? If freedom and choice are going away, then why. Maybe if you want to raise your children to be warriors, but then you would want them to reach adulthood and be able to fight, you wouldn't want things to implode when they were 6 or 10 or 14. Now if civilization were going to endure and I were rich, then I would want to have a lot of children and adopt dozens more to raise as many decent human beings as possible. In both cases above, you are looking at the situation from the perspective of an EDUCATED woman. And in the second case, you are assuming that you will be financially capable of raising many children to adulthood in an increasing expensive environment. I can just barely support myself. Most of the females with children that I know personally are in the same financial boat. Most women in poorer cultures are not educated. In such cultures, if disaster looks to be on the horizon, more children are still better, for two reasons. The first reason I already stated: more children mean a larger available labor pool (even small children can help cultivate a garden and tend livestock). The second reason is that a larger number of children increases the odds that at least some of them will survive to adulthood and thus be available to support their parents, if/when said parents become old and infirm. You opened with reference to educated people and I replied in regard to an educated person who is rich, so when you say "you are looking at the situation from the perspective of an EDUCATED woman." that was indeed my intention in the established context. Then in regard to " financially capable" I was again stating "if... ... I were rich." Yes, things are much different for the poor and uneducated. I was raised middle class and reasonably well off and I hope to maintain that level. I wish everyone could be at that level all over the world. |
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Post by Terry Mixon on Sept 24, 2018 23:32:54 GMT -5
Folks, I have a couple of people that have contacted me about joining the game. Just a heads up that some fresh blood is about to join us over the next few days. Joe Roberts is already on the forum, but hasn't posted anything in here yet. We're working on a character for him. Terry Mixon has a character ready to go, I think, but he's away from his computer on a trip until Monday or Tuesday so he won't be joining us before that. About the current NPC's that used to be PC's: Thazar de Verres (sp?) is exiting the crew here. There will be more about that in a new thread. Baltus is a passenger so I'll keep NPCing him until he exits at the next world. Doc Vargas I'm keeping as an NPC unless we get a player that wants to take on the Medic position. Eris I'm back in town and have my account here. Now I just have to figure out where to post.  Terry |
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Post by Matt on Sept 25, 2018 0:09:45 GMT -5
Hey guys, I'm going to be working on a character as well |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Sept 25, 2018 0:15:42 GMT -5
Matt & Terry Mixon I think erisred will create a folder for your character in the Working Passage subforum asap.
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Post by erisred on Sept 25, 2018 0:45:06 GMT -5
Matt & Terry Mixon I think erisred will create a folder for your character in the Working Passage subforum asap. I sure will! Right now before I exit for bed. Eris ps. With Terry, JR, and Matt joining us I think we're full again...eight is enough! Terry, JR, Matt, Mighty D, EbonHS, Chuck, Oscar, Raikenclw...and several NPC's. Yep, full ship! |
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Post by Terry Mixon on Sept 25, 2018 22:38:00 GMT -5
Matt & Terry Mixon I think erisred will create a folder for your character in the Working Passage subforum asap. I sure will! Right now before I exit for bed. Eris ps. With Terry, JR, and Matt joining us I think we're full again...eight is enough! Terry, JR, Matt, Mighty D, EbonHS, Chuck, Oscar, Raikenclw...and several NPC's. Yep, full ship! I've posted the character I have, minus the background, that Eris rolled up for me. Now all Eris needs is to start a gunfight to introduce me. jk, I don't have a gun and no one wants me shooting one. Seriously. Big Trouble in Little China don't want me shooting a gun. |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Sept 25, 2018 22:41:58 GMT -5
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Post by Chuck on Sept 26, 2018 0:09:04 GMT -5
Hi to all of the new players!
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Post by Mighty Darci on Sept 27, 2018 15:51:42 GMT -5
Welcome to all the new players, this is gonna be awesome!
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Post by raikenclw on Sept 28, 2018 0:58:55 GMT -5
You opened with reference to educated people . . . Hey. I'm not arguing any of your points. Never was. But I didn't open with "educated people." I was asking what the falling birthrate of educated people had to do with signs of a dystopian future. |
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