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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 5, 2016 10:10:23 GMT -5
Hi everyone, Admin Pete here and I want to try my hand at building on what Vile Traveller and makofan have started. I have never played Traveller or even looked at it until this project surfaced and I am intrigued by it and am going to give creating a sub-sector a go. Inspired by the Traveller Out-of-the-Box posts on the Tales to Astound! blog and makofan 's post on the OD&D Discussion forum, what do you think of our chances of putting together a subsector based on the 1977 LBBs? I know we're a small community, but the recent one-page setting contest seems to show there is enough will and talent here. The only question is whether you'd all be interested in doing something like this for old-school CT. The idea is that I would prepare the blank map using only the random method in LBB3 (including '77-style space lanes), and everyone would take it from there to develop their own clusters or individual worlds (in communication with your neighbours if you feel so inclined - we found this was the most fun part when we developed the Spica Sector for Spica Publishing years ago). I am rolling up the initial data just like (well mostly) Vile Traveller , did and I will let you know when it is ready for anyone who wants to, to jump in and help. I am planning on claiming a good sized chunk myself. |
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 5, 2016 10:20:53 GMT -5
Step 1: World OccurrenceThe standard rule is 4-6 on d6 means there is a world in any particular hex and that is what I used here. Going through the blank sub-sector hex grid, I end up with 42 worlds in the hexes listed below. I don't have any good way to create the map and makofan is going to do that for me and create the space lanes, as I don't have the 1977 rules to look at (yet). 01. 0101 02. 0102 03. 0103 04. 0104 05. 0106 06. 0108 07. 0202 08. 0204 09. 0205 10. 0206 11. 0302 12. 0303 13. 0305 14. 0306 15. 0308 16. 0401 17. 0402 18. 0403 19. 0405 20. 0406 21. 0409 22. 0410 23. 0502 24. 0503 25. 0504 26. 0506 27. 0508 28. 0601 29. 0603 30. 0605 31. 0607 32. 0608 33. 0610 34. 0701 35. 0702 36. 0708 37. 0709 38. 0710 39. 0802 40. 0803 41. 0805 42. 0806
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 5, 2016 10:25:02 GMT -5
Step 2: Starport TypeThis is a straightforward 2d6 look-up table and to quote Vile Traveller , I'm going to refrain from making any comments during generation, so as to leave the field clear of possible influence for co-creators. Here's what we get: 01. 0101 C 02. 0102 C 03. 0103 B 04. 0104 C 05. 0106 E 06. 0108 C 07. 0202 B 08. 0204 A 09. 0205 B 10. 0206 D 11. 0302 A 12. 0303 E 13. 0305 C 14. 0306 C 15. 0308 C 16. 0401 C 17. 0402 X 18. 0403 B 19. 0405 E 20. 0406 X 21. 0409 B 22. 0410 E 23. 0502 B 24. 0503 B 25. 0504 B 26. 0506 C 27. 0508 C 28. 0601 X 29. 0603 B 30. 0605 D 31. 0607 A 32. 0608 D 33. 0610 A 34. 0701 C 35. 0702 B 36. 0708 E 37. 0709 C 38. 0710 A 39. 0802 C 40. 0803 B 41. 0805 E 42. 0806 E
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 5, 2016 10:26:25 GMT -5
Step 3: Route DeterminationThis is for the map and the jump routes or spacelanes, which makofan is going to do. Thank you, Thank you! makofan 
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 5, 2016 10:27:08 GMT -5
Step 4: WORLD CREATION
Time to generate the meat of the UWP (Universal World Profile) for each world: size, atmosphere, hydrographic percentage, population, government, and law level, followed by technological index.
01. 0101 C 7746EB-8
02. 0102 C 769ADA-A
03. 0103 B 6669DA-A
04. 0104 X A669DA-3
05. 0106 D 431212-8
06. 0108 C 753512-8
07. 0202 B 979AAA-A
08. 0204 A 667922-B
09. 0205 B 654822-B
10. 0206 D 865871-B
11. 0302 A 8679AA-A
12. 0303 E 543512-B
13. 0305 C A668FA-A
14. 0306 C 979412-9
15. 0308 C 749922-8
16. 0401 C 7584AA-8
17. 0402 X A65412-9
18. 0403 B 452512-8
19. 0405 E 331212-9
20. 0406 X 97568A-2
21. 0409 B 96777A-B
22. 0410 E 754312-9
23. 0502 B A67613-9
24. 0503 B 759A24-9
25. 0504 B 867671-9
26. 0506 C 643412-E
27. 0508 C 321312-E
28. 0601 X 431000-0
29. 0603 B 643312-9
30. 0605 D 642312-9
31. 0607 A B677BA-A
32. 0608 D 665412-9
33. 0610 A 554312-A
34. 0701 C 967845-A
35. 0702 B 9668EA-9
36. 0708 E 654412-7
37. 0709 C 755412-9
38. 0710 A 9679FA-E
39. 0802 C 554312-9
40. 0803 B 444312-9
41. 0805 E 866871-8
42. 0806 E 655312-8
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 5, 2016 10:29:38 GMT -5
Step 5: Bases
Naval and/or scout bases may be present, depending on the starport type:
01. 0101 C 7746EB-8
02. 0102 C 769ADA-A Scout Base
03. 0103 B 6669DA-A Scout Base, Naval Base
04. 0104 X A669DA-3
05. 0106 D 431212-8
06. 0108 C 753512-8
07. 0202 B 979AAA-A
08. 0204 A 667922-B
09. 0205 B 654822-B
10. 0206 D 865871-B Scout Base
11. 0302 A 8679AA-A Scout Base, Naval Base
12. 0303 E 543512-B
13. 0305 C A668FA-A Scout Base
14. 0306 C 979412-9 Scout Base
15. 0308 C 749922-8
16. 0401 C 7584AA-8 Scout Base
17. 0402 X A65412-9
18. 0403 B 452512-8 Naval Base
19. 0405 E 331212-9
20. 0406 X 97568A-2
21. 0409 B 96777A-B Scout Base, Naval Base
22. 0410 E 754312-9
23. 0502 B A67613-9 Scout Base
24. 0503 B 759A24-9
25. 0504 B 867671-9 Scout Base
26. 0506 C 643412-E
27. 0508 C 321312-E Scout Base
28. 0601 X 431000-0
29. 0603 B 643312-9 Scout Base
30. 0605 D 642312-9 Scout Base
31. 0607 A B677BA-A Naval Base
32. 0608 D 665412-9 Scout Base
33. 0610 A 554312-A
34. 0701 C 967845-A Scout Base
35. 0702 B 9668EA-9
36. 0708 E 654412-7
37. 0709 C 755412-9 Scout Base
38. 0710 A 9679FA-E Scout Base Naval Base
39. 0802 C 554312-9 Scout Base
40. 0803 B 444312-9 Scout Base
41. 0805 E 866871-8
42. 0806 E 655312-8
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 5, 2016 10:30:20 GMT -5
Step 6: Gas Giants
Time to add in the presence of gas giants in the systems.
01. 0101 C 7746EB-8 Gas Giant
02. 0102 C 769ADA-A Gas Giant, Scout Base
03. 0103 B 6669DA-A Gas Giant, Scout Base, Naval Base
04. 0104 X A669DA-3 Gas Giant
05. 0106 D 431212-8 Gas Giant
06. 0108 C 753512-8 Gas Giant
07. 0202 B 979AAA-A Gas Giant
08. 0204 A 667922-B Gas Giant
09. 0205 B 654822-B Gas Giant
10. 0206 D 865871-B Gas Giant, Scout Base
11. 0302 A 8679AA-A Gas Giant, Scout Base, Naval Base
12. 0303 E 543512-B Gas Giant
13. 0305 C A668FA-A Gas Giant, Scout Base
14. 0306 C 979412-9 Scout Base
15. 0308 C 749922-8 Gas Giant
16. 0401 C 7584AA-8 Gas Giant, Scout Base
17. 0402 X A65412-9 Gas Giant
18. 0403 B 452512-8 Gas Giant, Naval Base
19. 0405 E 331212-9
20. 0406 X 97568A-2 Gas Giant
21. 0409 B 96777A-B Gas Giant, Scout Base, Naval Base
22. 0410 E 754312-9 Gas Giant
23. 0502 B A67613-9 Gas Giant, Scout Base
24. 0503 B 759A24-9 Gas Giant
25. 0504 B 867671-9 Gas Giant, Scout Base
26. 0506 C 643412-E Gas Giant
27. 0508 C 321312-E Gas Giant, Scout Base
28. 0601 X 431000-0 Gas Giant
29. 0603 B 643312-9 Gas Giant, Scout Base
30. 0605 D 642312-9 Gas Giant, Scout Base
31. 0607 A B677BA-A Gas Giant Naval Base
32. 0608 D 665412-9 Gas Giant, Scout Base
33. 0610 A 554312-A Gas Giant
34. 0701 C 967845-A Gas Giant, Scout Base
35. 0702 B 9668EA-9 Gas Giant
36. 0708 E 654412-7
37. 0709 C 755412-9 Gas Giant, Scout Base
38. 0710 A 9679FA-E Gas Giant, Scout Base Naval Base
39. 0802 C 554312-9 Gas Giant, Scout Base
40. 0803 B 444312-9 Gas Giant, Scout Base
41. 0805 E 866871-8 Gas Giant
42. 0806 E 655312-8 Gas Giant
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 5, 2016 10:31:48 GMT -5
I will let everyone know when the above is complete.   |
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Post by Crimhthan The Great on Nov 5, 2016 11:00:23 GMT -5
Boldness, I like it!!
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Post by Mighty Darci on Nov 5, 2016 11:14:36 GMT -5
I will let everyone know when the above is complete. I'm looking forward to it! This is really funtastic! |
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Post by makofan on Nov 5, 2016 20:09:11 GMT -5
map posted
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 5, 2016 22:40:28 GMT -5
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 6, 2016 20:28:50 GMT -5
OK folks, the worlds are ready to claim. I am initially taking:
06. 0108 C 753512-8 Gas Giant
15. 0308 C 749922-8 Gas Giant
21. 0409 B 96777A-B Gas Giant, Scout Base, Naval Base
22. 0410 E 754312-9 Gas Giant
27. 0508 C 321312-E Gas Giant, Scout Base
31. 0607 A B677BA-A Gas Giant Naval Base
32. 0608 D 665412-9 Gas Giant, Scout Base
33. 0610 A 554312-A Gas Giant
36. 0708 E 654412-7
37. 0709 C 755412-9 Gas Giant, Scout Base
38. 0710 Kunzite A 9679FA-E Gas Giant, Scout Base, Naval Base
41. 0805 E 866871-8 Gas Giant
42. 0806 E 655312-8 Gas Giant
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Post by Mighty Darci on Nov 6, 2016 20:35:47 GMT -5
I am going to take these to start with.
01. 0101 C 7746EB-8 Gas Giant
02. 0102 C 769ADA-A Gas Giant, Scout Base
03. 0103 B 6669DA-A Gas Giant, Scout Base, Naval Base
04. 0104 X A669DA-3 Gas Giant
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Post by randyb on Nov 7, 2016 9:53:26 GMT -5
I'm opting out of this one due to RL busyness. But wow at the interconnectedness of the trade routes....
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 7, 2016 10:30:34 GMT -5
Thank you for your interest. I think there may be other sub-sectors after this one. Maybe one that you start. |
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 7, 2016 15:56:23 GMT -5
Thank you! It looks great!
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Post by ffilz on Nov 7, 2016 17:44:26 GMT -5
Makofan, 0103, 0302, 0409, and 0710 are missing from your map...
This is a very connected sub-sector.
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 7, 2016 18:24:45 GMT -5
Makofan, 0103, 0302, 0409, and 0710 are missing from your map... This is a very connected sub-sector. Thank you ffilz, I missed that! I guess I was too excited about having a sharp looking map. Which I am grateful for! |
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Post by Mighty Darci on Nov 7, 2016 20:59:23 GMT -5
Makofan, 0103, 0302, 0409, and 0710 are missing from your map... This is a very connected sub-sector. Also is there a reason the maps are at a smaller/lessor resolution than the maps in the Murkhill Subsector and how difficult is it to change that? |
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Post by makofan on Nov 7, 2016 21:27:16 GMT -5
OK let me check my raw data
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Post by Mighty Darci on Nov 7, 2016 21:34:25 GMT -5
OK let me check my raw data. Your maps are beautiful! They look really sharp! |
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 7, 2016 22:34:28 GMT -5
That is excellent makofan, have another Exalt! |
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Post by randyb on Nov 8, 2016 16:57:26 GMT -5
This is a very connected sub-sector. I noticed that too. I count four worlds without trade routes (two X starports, 0402 and 0601, and two E starports, 0805 and 0806). I also note an error from the first map to later ones: 0406 originally had a B starport, but now has an X starport, while retaining trade routes. |
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Post by makofan on Nov 9, 2016 10:46:10 GMT -5
Here is the problem. On one list, 0406 is showing as spaceport B. On another list, it is showing as X. X makes more sense for a tech level 2 world.
Once @perilousdreamer decides which he wants, I will modify the map appropriately
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 9, 2016 10:55:33 GMT -5
Here is the problem. On one list, 0406 is showing as spaceport B. On another list, it is showing as X. X makes more sense for a tech level 2 world. Once @perilousdreamer decides which he wants, I will modify the map appropriately X it is! I missed that! |
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Post by ffilz on Nov 9, 2016 11:09:19 GMT -5
Here is the problem. On one list, 0406 is showing as spaceport B. On another list, it is showing as X. X makes more sense for a tech level 2 world. Once @perilousdreamer decides which he wants, I will modify the map appropriately X it is! I missed that! Ah, that busts up the connectivity... All those space lanes to 0406 disappear and there is no longer one huge connected set of worlds... |
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Post by makofan on Nov 9, 2016 11:13:23 GMT -5
I have updated the map; makes a major change in the space routes
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 9, 2016 13:43:45 GMT -5
Thank you, I went back to my notes and that started as X and somewhere along the line got changed to a B. This is fine, at least for me.
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Post by randyb on Nov 9, 2016 16:40:44 GMT -5
Ah, that busts up the connectivity... All those space lanes to 0406 disappear and there is no longer one huge connected set of worlds... Unfortunately true. Unlike 0601, the neighboring worlds to 0406 do not have trade routes between them that "pass over" 0406. Were the routes to 0406 simply deleted, or were the surrounding worlds' routes to one another rerolled and missed? |
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Inspired by the Traveller Out-of-the-Box posts on the Tales to Astound! blog and makofan 's post on the OD&D Discussion forum, what do you think of our chances of putting together a subsector based on the 1977 LBBs? I know we're a small community, but the recent one-page setting contest seems to show there is enough will and talent here. The only question is whether you'd all be interested in doing something like this for old-school CT.
