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Post by True Black Raven on Jun 8, 2018 9:09:40 GMT -5
Yep. Funny. I've done over 20+ adventures while doing my darndest to differentiate each (i.e., making them unique by comparison to the last in form and function), Why? Because the TSR model changed and for me it was either stay present in it while trying to show the route back to DIY or to drop out completely and become irrelevant and fade to obscurity. Most people remember me now for adventure crafting (like Fight On! #14 dedicated that issue to me and as a superior designer of adventures, or some such equal wording). In actuality every time I see that linkage which describes me as a "designer" and by not mentioning my many other designs, I wince. I't's a partial proof when considering my designs; and yet it's a stark admission of what the market--the overall perception of consumers in that market--of what it demands, extolls and, indeed, expects. Two things predominate right now, one is that if you're not using a module, then you are having bad wrong fun and two is the belief that the way you all played bitd 1971-1974 and later was the murderhobo style. There is almost no place where either of those two things are disputed. The one forum that was spun off of another back in the early 2000's that claims to be the only real old school forum, fully embraces the murderhobo trope as the original way to play. It is as if everything that happened pre-AD&D has been erased.
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Post by robkuntz on Jun 8, 2018 11:13:27 GMT -5
What! Your orcs are smart enough to understand worship? Sure. Just like brigands have their "God": the SWORD.
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Post by robkuntz on Jun 8, 2018 11:29:29 GMT -5
Yep. Funny. I've done over 20+ adventures while doing my darndest to differentiate each (i.e., making them unique by comparison to the last in form and function), Why? Because the TSR model changed and for me it was either stay present in it while trying to show the route back to DIY or to drop out completely and become irrelevant and fade to obscurity. Most people remember me now for adventure crafting (like Fight On! #14 dedicated that issue to me and as a superior designer of adventures, or some such equal wording). In actuality every time I see that linkage which describes me as a "designer" and by not mentioning my many other designs, I wince. I't's a partial proof when considering my designs; and yet it's a stark admission of what the market--the overall perception of consumers in that market--of what it demands, extolls and, indeed, expects. Two things predominate right now, one is that if you're not using a module, then you are having bad wrong fun and two is the belief that the way you all played bitd 1971-1974 and later was the murderhobo style. There is almost no place where either of those two things are disputed. The one forum that was spun off of another back in the early 2000's that claims to be the only real old school forum, fully embraces the murderhobo trope as the original way to play. It is as if everything that happened pre-AD&D has been erased. Well. Both of those positions fly in the face of historical evidence. It may well be loud voices trying to sell those false positions upstream. Even Gygax's Q&A @ ENWorld dispels those notions out of hand. So it is mere sophistry that attempts to paint over the past and for? mainly, it appears, for selfish, a-historical reasons. I am adding a new TO DEBUNK article to "Into the Unknown" (formerly known as THE BOOK) to crush that POV, but there were enough ancillary treatments therein to date (i.e.,such as the God Game Model, 1975) that easily shunts aside such wildly imagined postures.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 13:32:45 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the battle cry of most people is "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 13:34:21 GMT -5
Sure. Just like brigands have their "God": the SWORD.
Which is how I differentiate between bandits and brigands.
Brigands are true OUTLAWS, in the medieval sense; lawless men. "Wolf's heads," as they were sometimes known in England.
Bandits... well, the difference between a dozen bandits and a dozen mercenaries is how long it's been since the lads last had a decent meal.
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Post by robkuntz on Jun 8, 2018 16:03:10 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the battle cry of most people is "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts." I am so glad you are not my marketing manager for it appears that your cynic side is much worse than my own.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 21:40:56 GMT -5
Guilty as charged, I fear.
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Post by True Black Raven on Jun 10, 2018 20:39:59 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the battle cry of most people is "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts." I think it is more like, "I have an agenda and a vested financial interest in you being wrong, so your facts don't matter as we will shout you down."
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Post by ripx187 on Jun 13, 2018 9:37:53 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding pompous, I feel that these games made of paper and imagination are extremely important to us now more than ever. Social media and the smartphone are rewiring our brains and rewriting how we communicate with one another. Many people try to live their lives like the beautiful people on the television. If you don't use Facebook you are going to be punished for it because nobody is going to so much as send you a card, be it a wedding announcement, a new baby, or even to wish you a Happy Birthday.
Go to a restaurant and watch the people around you sometimes. They aren't talking to one another. They are sitting there smiling at their phones because these things have stolen their lives. Their contacts are more important to them than their own families. If I don't ban phones from the table, and remind the players that they can play on those things anytime that they want to, but they only have so much time to play D&D, they'd be sitting there writing and reading nonsense. It is crazy!
We are a counter-culture now. Those of us who still walk around with binders full of paper and pens. Those of us who prefer real dice to digital. Those of us who sit around a real table and actually talk and interact with each other. How does it feel to be the unyielding rebel that you are?
Our NEED to unplug and go analogue is not just aesthetically pleasing, but it just might be what keeps us from turning into zombies. Hell, these games might just spare our species! Well, some of us anyway. You can buy them books and buy them books but you can't keep some people from just eating the pages.
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Post by robkuntz on Jun 13, 2018 13:01:33 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding pompous, I feel that these games made of paper and imagination are extremely important to us now more than ever. Social media and the smartphone are rewiring our brains and rewriting how we communicate with one another. Many people try to live their lives like the beautiful people on the television. If you don't use Facebook you are going to be punished for it because nobody is going to so much as send you a card, be it a wedding announcement, a new baby, or even to wish you a Happy Birthday. Go to a restaurant and watch the people around you sometimes. They aren't talking to one another. They are sitting there smiling at their phones because these things have stolen their lives. Their contacts are more important to them than their own families. If I don't ban phones from the table, and remind the players that they can play on those things anytime that they want to, but they only have so much time to play D&D, they'd be sitting there writing and reading nonsense. It is crazy! We are a counter-culture now. Those of us who still walk around with binders full of paper and pens. Those of us who prefer real dice to digital. Those of us who sit around a real table and actually talk and interact with each other. How does it feel to be the unyielding rebel that you are? Our NEED to unplug and go analogue is not just aesthetically pleasing, but it just might be what keeps us from turning into zombies. Hell, these games might just spare our species! Well, some of us anyway. You can buy them books and buy them books but you can't keep some people from just eating the pages. Yep. Consumerism, technology and the selfish ME< ME< ME of cultural Marxism, coupled with the dumbing down in schools /no critical thinking allowed/ has lead to a whole bunch of vacuous lives.
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