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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 23, 2020 14:26:21 GMT -5
This is an info thread for my new PbP game. Those who have signed up to play can post here and get to know each other while I am setting things up which will take a little while. I will also be posting about the things from the previous PbP that I had to shut down as my wife's health deteriorated. It has been 15 months since she passed away and I think I am ready to run a game again. Many of the players in that previous game have passed on to other venues, so I am going to be posting what is still cannon from that game as I get this ready to play. I am going to keep the same setting and we will get started once I have everything ready. The previous game is archived up in my campaign section with the other things I have posted about my campaigns. I suggest that you remember only the stuff that I post in this new forum area will be cannon. Here are the people who have spoken up and asked to join so far. Paladin @akatonbo raikenclw mao Hexenritter Verlag If you are interested in playing and your name does not appear above, then post here in this thread.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 23, 2020 14:37:13 GMT -5
Please note that this is the only thread you will have access to post in until I get the Character Creation threads up and running. I will post info about Races and Classes so that you can be thinking about what character you want to take. This will be OD&D and to start out we will only be using the Three Little Brown Books of the original 1974 game, plus house rules. I am going to try to run this a lot like I did in 1975 before I obtained the Greyhawk Supplement. I will likely add some things in gradually as we go. Feel free to go read my blog where I am doing a line by line look at the original Three Little Brown Books. I would suggest you start with January 1st 2020 on the blog and I did not start the line by line thing until something in late Feb IIRC. Link to the blog is in my signature.
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Post by raikenclw on Apr 23, 2020 20:51:05 GMT -5
The previous game you're referring to is the one where I played Sora (a paladin) and his armsman, correct?
Reading up a bit on the Little Brown Books - and allowing for your statement that this new game will be pre-Greyhawk (which included the first introduction of the paladin player class) - I am content to reimagine Sora as a cleric.
On the subject of player character race, there are only four in the LBBs: dwarf, elf, halfling and human. If this is the selection, I would like Sora to be an elf - assuming an elf can be a cleric under these rules.
NOTE: The Wikipedia article on the LBBs notes that there is a short section therein about allowing monster races as player character races. If there are already such non-standard races in this game's setting, then I would be interested in learning about them, particularly any with a generally bad reputation that can still work as a party member. Perhaps orcs/half-orcs? But at the same time I don't want to impose more work upon you than you've already done/considered.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 24, 2020 0:48:53 GMT -5
The previous game you're referring to is the one where I played Sora (a paladin) and his armsman, correct? Yes, that is correct. Reading up a bit on the Little Brown Books - and allowing for your statement that this new game will be pre-Greyhawk (which included the first introduction of the paladin player class) - I am content to reimagine Sora as a cleric. Yes, switching him over to a Cleric would be fine. On the subject of player character race, there are only four in the LBBs: dwarf, elf, halfling, hobbit and human. If this is the selection, I would like Sora to be an elf - assuming an elf can be a cleric under these rules. I fixed this for you! Elves can not be clerics under the RAW, but I have no problem with changing that up and letting an elf be a Cleric. I have also removed level limits. But Aliens can be Clerics, so you can stay a Deveuils if you want to. Or look at the options below and my comments, you can start a new character and go a whole new direction if you want. NOTE: The Wikipedia article on the LBBs notes that there is a short section therein about allowing monster races as player character races. If there are already such non-standard races in this game's setting, then I would be interested in learning about them, particularly any with a generally bad reputation that can still work as a party member. Perhaps orcs/half-orcs? But at the same time I don't want to impose more work upon you than you've already done/considered. Right now the PC Races are:Humans Elves Dwarves Hobbits Lizard Folk - Multiple types from wet to dry terrain from swamp to mountains Insect Folk - six, eight and ten limbed varieties Aliens: - Deveuils - Avianas - Hulcanians - Nagitherians - Ratacians Now if you want, I am willing to add Half-Elves, Half-Orcs, and Half-Ogres. Everyone please be looking over the choices, I will try to get all of the descriptions listed over the next week or so (7-10 days) and then I will open up character creation. I am hoping to get another player or two. And Hexenritter Verlag having had a hospital stay and surgery and having to move before the end of the month, will likely not be able to start right away and I will work him in when he is able to begin. Paladin @akatonbo raikenclw mao Hexenritter Verlag
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Apr 24, 2020 3:15:39 GMT -5
I am interested in a potential Half-Elf or Half-Orc. I can play from my iPhone when I have a decent connection.
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Post by mao on Apr 24, 2020 7:22:15 GMT -5
Humans all the way Baby!
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Post by mao on Apr 24, 2020 7:59:01 GMT -5
My wishlist is pretty short , I want to play a frontline fighter w a 2handed sword, chainmail and 12-15 strengh, human( mywife alaims that every cahr I play ois Capt America and shes prob not wrong)
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Post by raikenclw on Apr 24, 2020 10:41:48 GMT -5
My wishlist is pretty short , I want to play a frontline fighter w a 2handed sword, chainmail and 12-15 strengh, human( mywife alaims that every cahr I play ois Capt America and shes prob not wrong) My character Sora (an "Demon" from PD's racial list and now a Cleric rather than a Paladin) had exactly this sort of character as his companion in the previous version of this game. The fellow rarely spoke, much preferring to allow his actions speak for him. Sora carried around a portable chess set (the board was a painted square of linen), which he and this fellow used to occupy their time whenever engaged in the "wait" segment of the "hurry up and wait" Church Militant lifestyle. Since PD would probably prefer that each of us to have only one character, I doubt I will get to port this fellow into our new game. Since your description above matches this now-ex-companion to a "T," perhaps you would be interested in Sora and your PC sharing a similar pre-existing relationship?
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Post by raikenclw on Apr 24, 2020 10:55:32 GMT -5
Elves can not be clerics under the RAW, but I have no problem with changing that up and letting an elf be a Cleric. I have also removed level limits. But Aliens can be Clerics, so you can stay a Deveuils if you want to. Or look at the options below and my comments, you can start a new character and go a whole new direction if you want. If you're comfortable with Sora remaining a Deveuils, I'm fine with that. No need to alter your rules or add more races, just for me. Everyone please be looking over the choices, I will try to get all of the descriptions listed over the next week or so (7-10 days) and then I will open up character creation. I am hoping to get another player or two. A suggestion: Can we start play in media res? Specifically, can we pick up the previous game at the point we left it off? With the PCs just entering the first underground area, perhaps leaving one or two NPCs above to watch the mounts and guard against any stray members of the Opposition entering behind them? Of course, this would mean that everyone would already have met and be aware of why they're where they are. But I think that could be summarized in an introductory post. Naturally - except for Sora and perhaps Mao's character (if he's agreeable to my proposal) - all the PCs and NPCs would be different from those in the old game. But the premise can be used pretty much unaltered and doing this would definitely be (at least in my humble opinion) a lot more fun than Meeting At The Inn And Getting A Job Offer. NOTE: However, I *will* miss PTSD Girl, PD. Unless you want to play her as an NPC?
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Post by mao on Apr 24, 2020 11:38:48 GMT -5
My wishlist is pretty short , I want to play a frontline fighter w a 2handed sword, chainmail and 12-15 strengh, human( mywife alaims that every cahr I play ois Capt America and shes prob not wrong) My character Sora (an "Demon" from PD's racial list and now a Cleric rather than a Paladin) had exactly this sort of character as his companion in the previous version of this game. The fellow rarely spoke, much preferring to allow his actions speak for him. Sora carried around a portable chess set (the board was a painted square of linen), which he and this fellow used to occupy their time whenever engaged in the "wait" segment of the "hurry up and wait" Church Militant lifestyle. Since PD would probably prefer that each of us to have only one character, I doubt I will get to port this fellow into our new game. Since your description above matches this now-ex-companion to a "T," perhaps you would be interested in Sora and your PC sharing a similar pre-existing relationship? Sounds great! Deal! I also would like everyone to only have 1 char and poss 1 hireling
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Post by raikenclw on Apr 24, 2020 17:40:07 GMT -5
perhaps you would be interested in Sora and your PC sharing a similar pre-existing relationship? Sounds great! Deal! Sold! I also would like everyone to only have 1 char and poss[ess] 1 hireling I'm agreeable to this. PD, if you're also good with this, how about we make Sora's hireling a hobbit? We can equip him as a fighting-man, but he's really more of a dogrobber (a servant who cleans equipment, runs errands, and scrounges/trades for needful personal items). As your character classes evolve and we collectively gain more experience, this fellow - let's call him Milo Midhollow - might become a Grey Man. What do you say?
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Post by mao on Apr 25, 2020 5:54:47 GMT -5
I'm fist in the front and last if we retreat, need o know the rest of the stats to tell more, considering both paladin and grey man
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 25, 2020 12:34:29 GMT -5
Sold! I also would like everyone to only have 1 char and poss[ess] 1 hireling I'm agreeable to this. PD, if you're also good with this, how about we make Sora's hireling a hobbit? We can equip him as a fighting-man, but he's really more of a dogrobber (a servant who cleans equipment, runs errands, and scrounges/trades for needful personal items). As your character classes evolve and we collectively gain more experience, this fellow - let's call him Milo Midhollow - might become a Grey Man. What do you say? I am good with that, we can customize one hireling each.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 25, 2020 12:38:30 GMT -5
I'm fist in the front and last if we retreat, need o know the rest of the stats to tell more, considering both paladin and grey man Sorry mao, I am only going with the base three classes to start. Although if you pick something that would qualify, when people reach 4th level I am considering adding the optional classes at that time. When I do, you can become a Paladin if you started as a Fighting-Man or as a Cleric or as a Dwarf Fighting-Man as long as you meet the requirements. Just think about things and discuss options with each other until I get the descriptions completed.
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Post by mao on Apr 25, 2020 12:51:25 GMT -5
I'm fist in the front and last if we retreat, need o know the rest of the stats to tell more, considering both paladin and grey man Sorry mao , I am only going with the base three classes to start. Although if you pick something that would qualify, when people reach 4th level I am considering adding the optional classes at that time. When I do, you can become a Paladin if you started as a Fighting-Man or as a Cleric or as a Dwarf Fighting-Man as long as you meet the requirements. Just think about things and discuss options with each other until I get the descriptions completed. thats what i ment, im caught up w my reading
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Post by raikenclw on Apr 25, 2020 23:19:54 GMT -5
how about we make Sora's hireling a hobbit? We can equip him as a fighting-man, but he's really more of a dogrobber (a servant who cleans equipment, runs errands, and scrounges/trades for needful personal items). As your character classes evolve and we collectively gain more experience, this fellow - let's call him Milo Midhollow - might become a Grey Man. What do you say? I am good with that, we can customize one hireling each. Just clarifying: Are you saying that Milo can potentially become a Grey Man later on, once you get that hammered out and we have the needful experience? Does this mean that our hirelings (if played as important to the action) can advance in level? [I'm not asking for our hirelings to advance in lockstep with our player characters. But I think that as the PCs advance, their original hirelings - assuming these manage to survive - should also get more capable. Otherwise it makes no game mechanical sense to continue to keep them close, as they become less and less individually effective in comparison with the PCs.]
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 25, 2020 23:39:39 GMT -5
Just clarifying: Are you saying that Milo can potentially become a Grey Man later on, once you get that hammered out and we have the needful experience? Yes! Does this mean that our hirelings (if played as important to the action) can advance in level? Yes! There will be other things that I will gradually introduce over time as well.
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Post by mao on Apr 27, 2020 6:39:08 GMT -5
I like the way you are doing this. I am looking forward to expanded rules as we play so we can get acclimated to them. This should be fun.
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Post by mao on Apr 27, 2020 6:41:09 GMT -5
I am good with that, we can customize one hireling each. Just clarifying: Are you saying that Milo can potentially become a Grey Man later on, once you get that hammered out and we have the needful experience? Does this mean that our hirelings (if played as important to the action) can advance in level? [I'm not asking for our hirelings to advance in lockstep with our player characters. But I think that as the PCs advance, their original hirelings - assuming these manage to survive - should also get more capable. Otherwise it makes no game mechanical sense to continue to keep them close, as they become less and less individually effective in comparison with the PCs.] Thats only the second time somebody said "dogrobber" Isint it a middle eastern thing?
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Post by mao on Apr 27, 2020 7:42:50 GMT -5
A couple of things: Could you give m a thumbnail of paladins as you see them, I kinda want to make up my mind on direction I want to take my char on.not really interested in mechanics , more RPing info wanted.
I have one vote against 1/2 ogres, 1/2 orc fits the bill better IMNSHO.
just my 2 cents
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Post by raikenclw on Apr 27, 2020 12:43:44 GMT -5
Thats only the second time somebody said "dogrobber" Isint it a middle eastern thing? Actually, I googled the term when I first considered using it, realizing that it was rather obscure. It seems to date from medieval Europe and was a common description of the position up through WWI, said position being an enlisted man detailed to assist an officer with such duties. [The wikipedia entry has a quote from a field officer's diary to back this up]. But once aristocracy fell out of favor in Western society, it started falling out of use, since deomocratic sensibilities didn't like classing anyone as a servant. By the time of WWII it had come to be an alternate term for a senior officer's aide de camp. By the 1950s it was pretty much gone from the military lexicon. The official position may have vanished, but I'm fairly sure it's still around informally. I just can't see officers worrying about minor issues such as this, particularly in the field. I see it as one of those things like small gunboats. Between wars, nobody's interested in *little* gunboats - they're just not sexy. Nobody's going to get laid for a promotion to command a motorized dinghy. So these boats grow up to be mini-destroyers. Yet the tactical need for small gunboats remains, so the next time a conflict breaks out, they have to be reinvented all over again. Anyway, this being a medieval(ish) game, I figure a "dogrobber" fits in very well. Actually, I think it might make a good level title for a first-level Grey Man.
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Post by raikenclw on Apr 27, 2020 13:06:29 GMT -5
A couple of things: Could you give m a thumbnail of paladins as you see them, I kinda want to make up my mind on direction I want to take my char on.not really interested in mechanics , more RPing info wanted. For what it's worth, PD and I had this particular discussion when I was first creating Sora. I told him that I was interested in playing Sora on the model of Abbot Arnaud Amalric, initial commander of the Albigensian Crusade (1209-1229). This is the fellow who was reputed to have ordered . . . "Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius - Kill them [all] for the Lord knoweth them that are His" (2 Tim. ii. 19) . . .While there remains doubt that the abbot said these words there is little if any doubt that these words captured the spirit of the assault and that Arnaud and his crusaders planned to kill the inhabitants of any stronghold that offered resistance." As best I can recall (without digging through my ~1000 posts), PD replied to the effect that while he would not prohibit me from interpreting my character's perception of his alignment as "Awful Good" he would be very carefully monitoring Sora's behavior and would create any deity-imposed effects that he considered appropriate. I have one vote against 1/2 ogres, 1/2 orc fits the bill better IMNSHO. just my 2 cents I would also support half-orcs over half-orges. I say this because orcs are normally portrayed in fantasy as far more common than orges. The ration seems to be only one or two orges per orc band, if even that many. Since interfertility with humans is also commonly depicted as rare (presumably because human victims tend to get eaten or otherwise die before producing offspring), half-orges would be extremely rare and likely completely unknown (and thus extremely scary!) to most folk. Not an enviable position for a PC to hold.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 28, 2020 23:40:13 GMT -5
A couple of things: Could you give m a thumbnail of paladins as you see them, I kinda want to make up my mind on direction I want to take my char on.not really interested in mechanics , more RPing info wanted. I have one vote against 1/2 ogres, 1/2 orc fits the bill better IMNSHO. just my 2 cents A Paladin embodies all that is positive to a greater degree than do Cleric. A Paladin is what the devout Clerics are striving to be (part of the reason Clerics can become Paladins in the game). A Paladin is the Wielder of Justice, but also of Mercy. A Paladin does not kill unnecessarily, but they will kill without hesitation when they deem it to be right. Paladins are very generous and Paladins are quite humble, for that reason they are held in high esteem by the common folk. Paladins are Practical and Pragmatic. Also remember in this campaign most of the Humaniod "Monsters" can be Lawful, Neutral or Chaotic. Some of them, such as the NPC Greytusk and his family, are fine upstanding citizens.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 28, 2020 23:43:36 GMT -5
I say this because orcs are normally portrayed in fantasy as far more common than orges. The ration seems to be only one or two orges per orc band, if even that many. Since interfertility with humans is also commonly depicted as rare (presumably because human victims tend to get eaten or otherwise die before producing offspring), half-orges would be extremely rare and likely completely unknown (and thus extremely scary!) to most folk. Not an enviable position for a PC to hold. Forget all you know about other fantasy settings. It may lead you astray.
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Post by mao on Apr 29, 2020 7:13:58 GMT -5
I say this because orcs are normally portrayed in fantasy as far more common than orges. The ration seems to be only one or two orges per orc band, if even that many. Since interfertility with humans is also commonly depicted as rare (presumably because human victims tend to get eaten or otherwise die before producing offspring), half-orges would be extremely rare and likely completely unknown (and thus extremely scary!) to most folk. Not an enviable position for a PC to hold. Forget all you know about other fantasy settings. It may lead you astray.
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Post by raikenclw on Apr 29, 2020 9:29:40 GMT -5
Also remember in this campaign most of the Humaniod "Monsters" can be Lawful, Neutral or Chaotic. Some of them, such as the NPC Greytusk and his family, are fine upstanding citizens. Of what race are the Greytusk Clan, by the way? I had forgotten about him and his initial role in sending our motley group upon their way. Also, I can't remember if we ever decided whether that border keep commander we met was dirty (e.g. in the pay of the bandits) or not. [That is the same game, right? I *think* I remember Sora and his armsman playing a long game of chess while waiting for a patrol to come back in.] I'm leaning toward "not" because I don't remember Sora dealing out Justice at that point (accomplice to murder for profit not being worthy of Mercy - particularly from the Paladin of the God of Travelers).
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 29, 2020 10:55:17 GMT -5
Also remember in this campaign most of the Humaniod "Monsters" can be Lawful, Neutral or Chaotic. Some of them, such as the NPC Greytusk and his family, are fine upstanding citizens. Of what race are the Greytusk Clan, by the way? I had forgotten about him and his initial role in sending our motley group upon their way. Also, I can't remember if we ever decided whether that border keep commander we met was dirty (e.g. in the pay of the bandits) or not. [That is the same game, right? I *think* I remember Sora and his armsman playing a long game of chess while we waiting for a patrol to come back in.] I'm leaning toward "not" because I don't remember Sora dealing out Justice at that point (accomplice to murder for profit not being worthy of Mercy - particularly from the Paladin of the God of Travelers). Greytusk is an Ogre, a retired adventurer who now runs a most excellent Inn. He is prominent in the community and has invested widely. The border keep commander, we did not get that far.
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ampleframework
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Post by ampleframework on May 7, 2020 14:14:09 GMT -5
Okay, I've already IMed our friendly referee about this, but I'm definitely interested in joining in on this campaign. I'll be able to post some every evening and am tentatively interested in playing a Dwarf Fighter (possibly evolving into a Grey Man if/when the class options open up later), but open to any type of character.
I will add that while I've had experience with online RPing in the past, most of that was more free form stuff, or B/X over Discord and Google Hangouts in real-time. If my inexperience with pbp is a problem I can sit this one out, but I think I'll get the hang of it pretty quickly.
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Post by Paladin on May 8, 2020 7:09:20 GMT -5
My apologies for not seeing this sooner. I am still very interested in taking part! I'll put my thinking cap on regarding a character today.
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Post by raikenclw on May 8, 2020 19:59:49 GMT -5
Welcome, ampleframework and Paladin! Just FYI: there was a dwarf cleric in the previous game, who shared the same patron deity as my character Sora.
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