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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Nov 6, 2018 8:31:15 GMT -5
Someplace yesterday, I saw a post about what is gonzo and that everyone has different definitions. In my opinion gonzo is defined by Dave Arneson's Blackmoor and by Dave Hargrave's Arduin. Hargrave's game was in the spirit of Arneson's game. I have often wondered what we would have if Hargrave had been one of Arneson's group in the Twin Cities and someone else in the group had been privy to their secrets and wrote everything down for them.
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Post by simrion on Nov 6, 2018 8:57:35 GMT -5
To me Gonzo gaming is an "anything goes" kitchen sink adventure or campaign. Arneson was a fan of B-monster flicks and I believe such influenced his adventures. Hargrove shamelessly mixed sci-fi with fantasy, oh and let's not forget his "air sharks" (flying sharks for those not familiar. In the early days it seems DMs & players were less focused on realism and verisimilitude and more interested in exciting adventures and overcoming challenges.
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Post by mao on Nov 6, 2018 12:28:03 GMT -5
Gonzo is stepping over The Twilite Zone and moving into mescaline , skirting the edge of Blade Runner, The Tick and Heavy Metal(movie),  |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Nov 6, 2018 13:44:43 GMT -5
To me Gozo gaming is an "anything goes" kitchen sink adventure or campaign. Arneson was a fan of B-monster flicks and I believe such influenced his adventures. Hargrove shamelessly mixed sci-fi with fantasy, oh and let's not forget his "air sharks" (flying sharks for those not familiar. In the early days it seems DMs & players were less focused on realism and verisimilitude and more interested in exciting adventures and overcoming challenges. I agree with this post as i've always been drawn to settings that defied the norm - Wilderlands with its colored skin "humans", RIFTS that mixed fantasy, sci-fi & horror elements, plus Tekumel and Talislanta. My settings always drew from my interests in independent fantasy comics, video games and fantasy/sci-fi art. Battle Chasers is a perfect encapsulation of the Hargrave style from the magic powered tech, sentient War Golem (which predated both Eberron's Warforged & Warmachine/Iron Kingdoms Warjacks), flying Strata Ray (hybrid of a flying hammerhead shark and manta ray), magic powered clockwork items and even more sci-fi likearmor and technology among the border guards. I love that stuff. I am just trying to figure out how it'll manifest in my revisions for my core setting. |
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Post by docsammy on Nov 11, 2018 17:50:57 GMT -5
Gonzo is something that is difficult for me to properly define but I know it when I see it.
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Post by randyb on Nov 11, 2018 22:46:04 GMT -5
For me, gonzo includes the material in the section of the 1e DMG titled THE ONGOING CAMPAIGN, which includes conversion rules from Boot Hill and Gamma World into AD&D - that is, gonzo includes going outside of "medieval" fantasy, and even swords and sorcery and sword and planet, into the full range of adventurous fiction and the settings wherein those adventures occur.
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Post by Warrior Twin Two on Nov 16, 2018 17:42:54 GMT -5
For me, gonzo includes the material in the section of the 1e DMG titled THE ONGOING CAMPAIGN, which includes conversion rules from Boot Hill and Gamma World into AD&D - that is, gonzo includes going outside of "medieval" fantasy, and even swords and sorcery and sword and planet, into the full range of adventurous fiction and the settings wherein those adventures occur. What all of you call Gonzo, I call standard OD&D. |
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Post by randyb on Nov 17, 2018 19:31:15 GMT -5
For me, gonzo includes the material in the section of the 1e DMG titled THE ONGOING CAMPAIGN, which includes conversion rules from Boot Hill and Gamma World into AD&D - that is, gonzo includes going outside of "medieval" fantasy, and even swords and sorcery and sword and planet, into the full range of adventurous fiction and the settings wherein those adventures occur. What all of you call Gonzo, I call standard OD&D. Yep. Solomon Kane, for example, is absolutely not anachronistic or out-of-place for OD&D. For AD&D, he's gonzo. |
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Post by FaerieGodfather on Nov 17, 2018 22:36:44 GMT -5
All the more reason I wish I'd gotten introduced to the hobby with OD&D rather than AD&D.
Though I wouldn't give up the 2e campaign settings for anything.
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Post by Crimhthan The Great on Nov 17, 2018 23:13:11 GMT -5
For me, gonzo includes the material in the section of the 1e DMG titled THE ONGOING CAMPAIGN, which includes conversion rules from Boot Hill and Gamma World into AD&D - that is, gonzo includes going outside of "medieval" fantasy, and even swords and sorcery and sword and planet, into the full range of adventurous fiction and the settings wherein those adventures occur. What all of you call Gonzo, I call standard OD&D. Young one, there is some small worth to you after all!  |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Nov 17, 2018 23:20:09 GMT -5
All the more reason I wish I'd gotten introduced to the hobby with OD&D rather than AD&D.
Though I wouldn't give up the 2e campaign settings for anything.TSR did make some good setting during 2e AD&D run, sadly the Forgotten Realms ones (core box set, Maztica & Hordes especially). |
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Post by randyb on Nov 18, 2018 10:02:45 GMT -5
All the more reason I wish I'd gotten introduced to the hobby with OD&D rather than AD&D. Though I wouldn't give up the 2e campaign settings for anything. So make 2e gonzo. Add in whatever gonzo you want, and have fun! |
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Post by mao on Nov 19, 2018 13:11:15 GMT -5
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Nov 19, 2018 14:01:21 GMT -5
me You are gonzo on steroids mao ! |
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Post by mao on Nov 19, 2018 14:04:55 GMT -5
me You are gonzo on steroids mao ! You are not wrong, Sir!, I like to think of DMing as an artistic expression, not a whos better than who. I am Rod Serling or Salvador Dali |
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Nov 20, 2018 5:28:19 GMT -5
Almost forgot: Gonzo is a fixation on chickens, blue fur, an umbrella handle for a nose, and hanging around with Kermit D. Frog.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 7:03:14 GMT -5
Hunter S. Thompson's distinctive style of news reporting and creative writing???!
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Nov 20, 2018 7:22:26 GMT -5
Hunter S. Thompson's distinctive style of news reporting and creative writing???! True, but context is everything! |
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Post by randyb on Nov 20, 2018 8:22:31 GMT -5
Almost forgot: Gonzo is a fixation on chickens, blue fur, an umbrella handle for a nose, and hanging around with Kermit D. Frog. That's the answer to the question; "Who is Gonzo?" |
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Post by mao on Nov 20, 2018 17:35:58 GMT -5
Almost forgot: Gonzo is a fixation on chickens, blue fur, an umbrella handle for a nose, and hanging around with Kermit D. Frog. <iframe width="23.1400000000001" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 23.1400000000001px; height: 2.9200000000000017px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_85383154" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.1400000000001" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 23.14px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1097px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_92445466" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.1400000000001" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 23.14px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_7954169" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.1400000000001" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 23.14px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1097px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_64796823" scrolling="no"></iframe> Do you guys remember when SNL was funny and Gonzo used to tell dirty jokes? |
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Nov 20, 2018 18:02:28 GMT -5
I'd say you're dating yourself, if it weren't that I do remember when SNL was funny. When it was NBC's SL. When Laugh-In was funny. And when Ernie Kovacs was inspiring them all.
Only thing saving me from comedy curmudgeonness has been Studio C these past 9 years, which is why I'm following 'em to their new studio of JK.
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