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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 14, 2018 16:42:29 GMT -5
I was wonder if anyone here was a fan of Steampunk & if so incorporated elements popular in Steampunk into their fantasy campaigns? Be it Historical Fantasy based campaigns set in a mythical Victorian era or just taking steam technology, clockwork technology & aspects of Victorian culture and fused it into their own worlds? I figure bravewolf might have considered it, if you take his cosplay pics he uses that seem to be Steam Punk based, but has anyone else even considered doing it? I know mao likely hasn't as he doesn't like mixing tech with his fantasy (a perfectly valid opinion, I am not knocking him on it, just stating what he has said on the subject); it just happens to be one of the few things we disagree with civilly on. I know I have, as I love watching British films and shows set during the period and always wanted to incorporate those tropes into my settings to one degree or another. I actually created another continent for my world of Skarn setting to add those elements but I never finished the write-ups as it was taking the setting further afield that I wanted it to go. That all said I am reconsidering it and might incorporate in into my Skarn revisions since I took out the more alien & fantastic elements for one of my other settings. If not for a revised Skarn i might do it with a new setting instead. |
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Post by mao on Aug 14, 2018 17:22:33 GMT -5
You are correct Hexenritter Verlag, I don't like steampunk and yet I actually did some work on a steam punk setting, I'll get a link. This is another on strolen(not scras this time.) I make it a policy that if anyone on a site I frequent asks for help I do my best. It was also a challange to myself that I could work on something I didnt like. strolen.com/viewing/Refuge_Beneath_the_WavesSo a reminder, I am "Aramax" on that site, co no it was not my idea |
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Post by bravewolf on Aug 14, 2018 18:12:02 GMT -5
No, I haven't tried to integrate steampunk, clockpunk, or dieselpunk into my RPGs. So far, I've relegated steampunk & what I might dub geopunk to my fiction writing. It's not a bad idea, though.
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Post by El Borak on Aug 14, 2018 18:42:09 GMT -5
I never really knew much about Steampunk, other than what I have learned recently here. I am a big fan of Verne and Wells, so I am interested and would like to see more and learn more. I don't really have a feel for how the game should work.
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Post by El Borak on Aug 14, 2018 18:45:09 GMT -5
You are correct Hexenritter Verlag , I don't like steampunk and yet I actually did some work on a steam punk setting, I'll get a link. This is another on strolen(not scras this time.) I make it a policy that if anyone on a site I frequent asks for help I do my best. It was also a challange to myself that I could work on something I didnt like. strolen.com/viewing/Refuge_Beneath_the_WavesSo a reminder, I am "Aramax" on that site, co no it was not my idea Great link, thanks mao. |
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Post by El Borak on Aug 14, 2018 18:46:38 GMT -5
No, I haven't tried to integrate steampunk, clockpunk, or dieselpunk into my RPGs. So far, I've relegated steampunk & what I might dub geopunk to my fiction writing. It's not a bad idea, though. Do you have a link to your fiction writing? Are you published? You might start a thread for your geopunk fiction (hint, hint).  |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 14, 2018 19:38:52 GMT -5
No, I haven't tried to integrate steampunk, clockpunk, or dieselpunk into my RPGs. So far, I've relegated steampunk & what I might dub geopunk to my fiction writing. It's not a bad idea, though. Tell me about this geopunk thing bravewolf color me intrigued. I still have to buckle down & do the research so I can get back to working on my Dieselpunk setting project. |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 14, 2018 19:39:46 GMT -5
No, I haven't tried to integrate steampunk, clockpunk, or dieselpunk into my RPGs. So far, I've relegated steampunk & what I might dub geopunk to my fiction writing. It's not a bad idea, though. Do you have a link to your fiction writing? Are you published? You might start a thread for your geopunk fiction (hint, hint). I second this request! |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 14, 2018 20:22:04 GMT -5
No, I haven't tried to integrate steampunk, clockpunk, or dieselpunk into my RPGs. So far, I've relegated steampunk & what I might dub geopunk to my fiction writing. It's not a bad idea, though. darn you, you beautiful bastard! I looked up Clockpunk on a whim after reading this post & went WTF!!!!!! So much coolness could come from it. I love the who Renaissance era & mixing magically empowered clockwork technology, firearms & airships would be awesome. Frankly I'd prefer this to Steampunk as it gives the world a few hundred years to develop unlike steampunk. Plus Pirates - P.I.R.A.T.E.S!!!! Not that I won't also work on a Steampunk setting too, but air pirates and other adventurous souls in a Renaissance/Baroque era inspired Clockplunk infused fantasy setting would be all kinds of epic awesomeness! Note to self: After watching the dvds I have lined up I need to get caught up on 'Black Sails' & the BBC 'Musketeers' tv series! Side note: How to mix-Biopunk into Fantasy with a bit o' cyberpunk to boot...hmmmm sounds delightfully dark and sinister to me. |
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Post by bravewolf on Aug 14, 2018 21:46:05 GMT -5
I never really knew much about Steampunk, other than what I have learned recently here. I am a big fan of Verne and Wells, so I am interested and would like to see more and learn more. I don't really have a feel for how the game should work. I read you on "how the game should work" as a conundrum. What scared me off trying to run Unhallowed Metropolis, a sweet-looking steampunk RPG, is Victorian material culture. Unless one was poor, Victorians - whether Brits or Americans - were a bunch of hoarders! There is just so much stuff in the average home or business & I really didn't want to have to describe every bit of minutiae in a game. Sort of irrational of me, lol. Additionally, we aren't terribly removed from aspects of Victoriana even in the 21st century, so it doesn't push my escapist buttons for gaming. |
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Post by bravewolf on Aug 14, 2018 21:57:43 GMT -5
No, I haven't tried to integrate steampunk, clockpunk, or dieselpunk into my RPGs. So far, I've relegated steampunk & what I might dub geopunk to my fiction writing. It's not a bad idea, though. Tell me about this geopunk thing bravewolf color me intrigued. I still have to buckle down & do the research so I can get back to working on my Dieselpunk setting project. In all of your spare time  , get on that dieselpunk setting! Geopunk is really only a thing in my mind & at present is more of an alternative dieselpunk genre. I call it dieselpunk cos in my story, "The Gauntlet," a goodly number of vehicles are powered by natural gas found in the Nat-gas fields near Princeton, California. Further west, in the Clear Lake area, geothermal energy powers most tech in this post-apocalyptic world. I don't think that all cultures in post-conflagration California are geopunk. The Gauntlet is published in a Mad Max-inspired anthology called Sweat, Steel, and Cruise Control, edited by E. S. Wynn & published by Rogue Planet Press. |
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Post by bravewolf on Aug 14, 2018 22:07:06 GMT -5
No, I haven't tried to integrate steampunk, clockpunk, or dieselpunk into my RPGs. So far, I've relegated steampunk & what I might dub geopunk to my fiction writing. It's not a bad idea, though. Do you have a link to your fiction writing? Are you published? You might start a thread for your geopunk fiction (hint, hint). Thanks for asking! Many moons ago, the publisher of Clockwork Magazine (now defunct), asked me to write a guest column. I wasn't feeling the original recommended format, so I suggested a pulp serial about an archaeologist who worked for an arm of the Smithsonian Institution that investigated paranormal antiquities. It was Old West steampunk (short title: Dispatches from the Field) and ran for six issues (Issues 1-6, I think). MagCloud still carries Clockwork, if memory serves. Hm, steampunk Boot Hill, anyone?? I might have to revisit that notion. |
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Post by bravewolf on Aug 14, 2018 22:13:37 GMT -5
Hexenritter Verlag, bio punk sounds cool! Inspiration can doubtlessly be found in Shadowrun for that, without even going the cyberpunk route. The great thing about the various iterations of "punk" is its modularity. There's no need to be slavish to one genre of punk. The DIY punk ethic should guarantee that any given world would have diverse, cobbled-together technological trajectories, each focusing on the resources prevalent in localities X, Y, & Z.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 14, 2018 23:48:07 GMT -5
Tell me about this geopunk thing bravewolf color me intrigued. I still have to buckle down & do the research so I can get back to working on my Dieselpunk setting project. In all of your spare time , get on that dieselpunk setting! Geopunk is really only a thing in my mind & at present is more of an alternative dieselpunk genre. I call it dieselpunk cos in my story, "The Gauntlet," a goodly number of vehicles are powered by natural gas found in the Nat-gas fields near Princeton, California. Further west, in the Clear Lake area, geothermal energy powers most tech in this post-apocalyptic world. I don't think that all cultures in post-conflagration California are geopunk. The Gauntlet is published in a Mad Max-inspired anthology called Sweat, Steel, and Cruise Control, edited by E. S. Wynn & published by Rogue Planet Press. Sounds neat, i'll have to check it out asap. bravewolf said: I'll get on it asap. |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 14, 2018 23:50:50 GMT -5
Hexenritter Verlag , bio punk sounds cool! Inspiration can doubtlessly be found in Shadowrun for that, without even going the cyberpunk route. The great thing about the various iterations of "punk" is its modularity. There's no need to be slavish to one genre of punk. The DIY punk ethic should guarantee that any given world would have diverse, cobbled-together technological trajectories, each focusing on the resources prevalent in localities X, Y, & Z. That is true. Brom's art, especially the art for his Dark Age card game & skirmish miniature game could work as inspiration. |
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Post by El Borak on Aug 15, 2018 14:33:34 GMT -5
Hexenritter Verlag , bio punk sounds cool! Inspiration can doubtlessly be found in Shadowrun for that, without even going the cyberpunk route. The great thing about the various iterations of "punk" is its modularity . There's no need to be slavish to one genre of punk. The DIY punk ethic should guarantee that any given world would have diverse, cobbled-together technological trajectories, each focusing on the resources prevalent in localities X, Y, & Z. I added the bold and my comment is "Absolutely this". |
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Post by El Borak on Aug 15, 2018 14:40:36 GMT -5
Do you have a link to your fiction writing? Are you published? You might start a thread for your geopunk fiction (hint, hint). Thanks for asking! Many moons ago, the publisher of Clockwork Magazine (now defunct), asked me to write a guest column. I wasn't feeling the original recommended format, so I suggested a pulp serial about an archaeologist who worked for an arm of the Smithsonian Institution that investigated paranormal antiquities. It was Old West steampunk (short title: Dispatches from the Field) and ran for six issues (Issues 1-6, I think). MagCloud still carries Clockwork, if memory serves. Hm, steampunk Boot Hill, anyone?? I might have to revisit that notion. $2.00 for each issue in digital |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 16, 2018 12:10:04 GMT -5
Hexenritter Verlag , bio punk sounds cool! Inspiration can doubtlessly be found in Shadowrun for that, without even going the cyberpunk route. The great thing about the various iterations of "punk" is its modularity. There's no need to be slavish to one genre of punk. The DIY punk ethic should guarantee that any given world would have diverse, cobbled-together technological trajectories, each focusing on the resources prevalent in localities X, Y, & Z. I couldn't agree more, being a fan of punk music and the subculture had an immense impact on my life - I am saddened how vocal segments of the Punk subculture now insist on ideological purity and conformity to popular group think and style. I like the notion that there should be no Punk Bible be it for the subcultural lifestyle or "punk" literature iterations. I could see a dark and tyrannical land of sorcerers who meld technology, biological science (cloning & bioengineering) and sorcery to create or modify beings and creatures to fit their perverse vision of the world, while in another land technicians use magic to power clockwork mechanisms while another utilizes steam to power their technological innovations. |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 16, 2018 13:26:35 GMT -5
bravewolf's contribution to this thread and via his Geopunk thread has me in a creative mood and I am brainstorming for a new setting inspired by this discussion (yes I know i have several settings in various stages of completion but I move where my muse takes me). Whether or not this project bears fruit who knows, but I'd like to see where it might go.
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Post by The Archivist on Aug 16, 2018 13:39:26 GMT -5
Hexenritter Verlag , bio punk sounds cool! Inspiration can doubtlessly be found in Shadowrun for that, without even going the cyberpunk route. The great thing about the various iterations of "punk" is its modularity. There's no need to be slavish to one genre of punk. The DIY punk ethic should guarantee that any given world would have diverse, cobbled-together technological trajectories, each focusing on the resources prevalent in localities X, Y, & Z. I couldn't agree more, being a fan of punk and the subculture had an immense impact on my life - I am saddened how vocal segments of the Punk subculture now insist on ideological purity and conformity to popular group think and style. I like the notion that there should be no Punk Bible be it for the subcultural lifestyle or "punk" literature iterations. I could see a dark and tyrannical land of sorcerers who meld technology, biological science (cloning & bioengineering) and sorcery to create or modify beings and creatures to fit their perverse vision of the world, while in another land technicians use magic to power clockwork mechanisms while another utilizes steam to power their technological innovations. It seems like every group wants to have a narrowly defined criteria for belonging and a litmus test to weed out everyone who is not ideologically pure and if you can not fit within some very narrow lines, then they want to other you. Odd that all of these groups claim to be inclusive. What is even odder still that in the gaming community at least, all of these groups originated from creative thinking, then once they are established they ban more creative thinking to settle for a fixed static status quo. This all made me think of this I posted below. There is a song called Who Will Answer it was based on a Spanish language song called Hallelujah No. 1 Google translation of Spanish to English |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 16, 2018 14:02:15 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more, being a fan of punk and the subculture had an immense impact on my life - I am saddened how vocal segments of the Punk subculture now insist on ideological purity and conformity to popular group think and style. I like the notion that there should be no Punk Bible be it for the subcultural lifestyle or "punk" literature iterations. I could see a dark and tyrannical land of sorcerers who meld technology, biological science (cloning & bioengineering) and sorcery to create or modify beings and creatures to fit their perverse vision of the world, while in another land technicians use magic to power clockwork mechanisms while another utilizes steam to power their technological innovations. It seems like every group wants to have a narrowly defined criteria for belonging and a litmus test to weed out everyone who is not ideologically pure and if you can not fit within some very narrow lines, then they want to other you. Odd that all of these groups claim to be inclusive. What is even odder still that in the gaming community at least, all of these groups originated from creative thinking, then once they are established they ban more creative thinking to settle for a fixed static status quo. I'll have to check out these songs The Archivist asap. You said: Being a member of or having been influenced by the Punk, Goth & Metal subcultures you see not only fragmentation but the formation of cliques based around various sub-genres and the creation of often narrow definitions of "True" members of the community are to embody. It is a tribalistic and natural thing to occur, but it seems odd that so-called rebels and free thinkers create narrow definitions of purity and become exclusionary, whereas like you said, they often claim to stand for being inclusive, yet they reject that for the former. It is even worse in a hobby that is based on creativity and artistic expression for certain members to create a rigid system of allowed design and thought which penalizes creative expression outside their defined orthodoxy. |
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, get on that dieselpunk setting! 