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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 1, 2018 12:42:06 GMT -5
Has anyone played in or run a cyberpunk campaign (whatever the rules)? If so, have you tried it via OD&D or another edition of D&D? If not, have you used another system like Cyberpunk 2020, Cyberspace or a generic system like Savage Worlds? I've played in short aborted Cyberpunk 2020 campaigns & I've run Cyberspace. In the past I have posted about how OD&D could be used to run such a campaign here & on my 'Musing about Original Edition Adventures' blog. I just haven't come up with a setting or set of house rules for a OD&D based game and I am not sure I will unless it'd be worth my while as I can run cyberpunk with Cyberspace easily enough but I am iffy on running such a system outside PbP as I'd rather run a Old School D&D version face-to-face. But ultimately I wanted to gauge the community interest in such a games and what your experiences were when you played in or run such campaigns.
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Post by mao on Aug 1, 2018 12:57:12 GMT -5
I kinda "ghost" DMed a Cyber game, it was Shadow Run setting but GURPS rules. My buddy wanted help designing a killer game and I came up with a fortress. The big surprise i the corporation had an attack Helicopter off site w no cyber links tot he main building
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 1, 2018 13:37:25 GMT -5
I kinda "ghost" DMed a Cyber game, it was Shadow Run setting but GURPS rules. My buddy wanted help designing a killer game and I came up with a fortress. The big surprise i the corporation had an attack Helicopter off site w no cyber links tot he main building Very nice. A friend of mine loves GURPS for anything he runs including Cyberpunk though he does like Cyberpunk 2020. I've never used or played GURPS as none of my friends liked it and it was too crunchy for me. I did enjoy playing in a Shadowrun campaign though, that said I'd never run it as I hate the system as a GM.
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Post by mao on Aug 1, 2018 14:29:41 GMT -5
Yea, I dont like magic and high tech mixed
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 1, 2018 18:46:41 GMT -5
Yea, I dont like magic and high tech mixed I don't mind that myself. That said I just don't like the weird system SR has, but I can understand your viewpoint as a lot of people I know hold it and it is a valid one.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 1, 2018 20:46:27 GMT -5
Yea, I dont like magic and high tech mixed I don't mind that myself. That said I just don't like the weird system SR has, but I can understand your viewpoint as a lot of people I know hold it and it is a valid one. I like magic in every setting. Sorry about that mao.
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Post by El Borak on Aug 2, 2018 8:22:03 GMT -5
Cyberpunk always makes me think of this image, two robots dressed like Cheech and Chong with wigs and facial hair glued on to complete the look while sitting playing chess. The air around them is filled with incense and other types of smoke. When they talk they sound like Cheech and Chong. I have no idea why the word Cyberpunk brings that image to mind.
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Post by Jakob Grimm on Aug 2, 2018 13:55:32 GMT -5
I would love to see a Cyberpunk setting posted and see discussion about it.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 2, 2018 14:36:39 GMT -5
I would love to see a Cyberpunk setting posted and see discussion about it. I am thinking of running a Cyberpunk PbP eventually but not sure what rule set I'd use & I was going to fuse the default settings from my favorite cyberpunk rpgs into a coherent whole. That said, if I was to develop a new setting for a OD&D or similar RPG I could post it here. My main issues are mapping and placement of the default city and the vibe of the setting. In most Cyberpunk settings you have areas that are basically lawless warzones and areas of complete order. Take Mexico you have places where things are relatively safe much of the time and others where urban warfare occurs between cartels or between cartels and the police; so it can be realistic. My issues often stem with how to make things viable - why corporations would stay in such a chaotic environment. You could look at Rio de Janeiro in how the city core is relatively safe yet you have favelas & periféricos that are impoverished slums in most cases. I could use Rio de Janeiro, use google maps and find a listing of popular Brazilian slang or do like comics (and R.Talisorian did with their Night City for Cyberpunk 2013/2020) and create a fictional city on a fictional island to be an international center of trade and vice. If I do the latter it'd be in the Atlantic with a heavy Asian, Latin American, Russian, African, Australian & American based population.
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Post by Jakob Grimm on Aug 2, 2018 14:40:36 GMT -5
I would love to see a Cyberpunk setting posted and see discussion about it. I am thinking of running a Cyberpunk PbP eventually but not sure what rule set I'd use & I was going to fuse the default settings from my favorite cyberpunk rpgs into a coherent whole. That said, if I was to develop a new setting for a OD&D or similar RPG I could post it here. My main issues are mapping and placement of the default city and the vibe of the setting. In most Cyberpunk settings you have areas that are basically lawless warzones and areas of complete order. Take Mexico you have places where things are relatively safe much of the time and others where urban warfare occurs between cartels or between cartels and the police; so it can be realistic. My issues often stem with how to make things viable - why corporations would stay in such a chaotic environment. You could look at Rio de Janeiro in how the city core is relatively safe yet you have favelas & periféricos that are impoverished slums in most cases. I could use Rio de Janeiro, use google maps and find a listing of popular Brazilian slang or do like comics (and R.Talisorian did with their Night City for Cyberpunk 2013/2020) and create a fictional city on a fictional island to be an international center of trade and vice. If I do the latter it'd be in the Atlantic with a heavy Asian, Latin American, Russian, African, Australian & American based population. Wouldn't the location of corporations be tied to the type and legality of their enterprises?
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 2, 2018 15:16:03 GMT -5
I am thinking of running a Cyberpunk PbP eventually but not sure what rule set I'd use & I was going to fuse the default settings from my favorite cyberpunk rpgs into a coherent whole. That said, if I was to develop a new setting for a OD&D or similar RPG I could post it here. My main issues are mapping and placement of the default city and the vibe of the setting. In most Cyberpunk settings you have areas that are basically lawless warzones and areas of complete order. Take Mexico you have places where things are relatively safe much of the time and others where urban warfare occurs between cartels or between cartels and the police; so it can be realistic. My issues often stem with how to make things viable - why corporations would stay in such a chaotic environment. You could look at Rio de Janeiro in how the city core is relatively safe yet you have favelas & periféricos that are impoverished slums in most cases. I could use Rio de Janeiro, use google maps and find a listing of popular Brazilian slang or do like comics (and R.Talisorian did with their Night City for Cyberpunk 2013/2020) and create a fictional city on a fictional island to be an international center of trade and vice. If I do the latter it'd be in the Atlantic with a heavy Asian, Latin American, Russian, African, Australian & American based population. Wouldn't the location of corporations be tied to the type and legality of their enterprises? I'll assume you are referring to the bold text above? Yes, but my question is why stay in a chaotic & crime ridden war zone if it is unsafe for both their employees & customers. You see it in high crime neighborhoods stay so as no business is willing to invest if they cannot be sure their customers and employees safe thus keeping the cycle alive. So you have the issue that if you take the traditional cyberpunk RPG tropes there are serious reality issues to deal with so players can suspend their disbelief so they can enjoy the game. It is easier to do so in fantasy settings than cyberpunk or hard sci-fi based settings were things should be realistically possible.
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Post by Jakob Grimm on Aug 2, 2018 17:14:46 GMT -5
Wouldn't the location of corporations be tied to the type and legality of their enterprises? I'll assume you are referring to the bold text above? Yes, but my question is why stay in a chaotic & crime ridden war zone if it is unsafe for both their employees & customers. You see it in high crime neighborhoods stay so as no business is willing to invest if they cannot be sure their customers and employees safe thus keeping the cycle alive. So you have the issue that if you take the traditional cyberpunk RPG tropes there are serious reality issues to deal with so players can suspend their disbelief so they can enjoy the game. It is easier to do so in fantasy settings than cyberpunk or hard sci-fi based settings were things should be realistically possible. OK, I was just saying that it makes sense to me that a criminal organization would be in that kind of neighborhood. They being big enough and bad enough to get less aggression from all but their fiercest competitors.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 2, 2018 17:37:32 GMT -5
I wasn't sure about what you meant. Cartels would love such places as they could thrive in them.
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Post by mao on Aug 3, 2018 11:21:39 GMT -5
Oh wait, I did run a Cyberpunk game(havent thought about it in forever) It was a convention game w 36 players and 5 DMs. The pcs were part of an armed version of PETA. it was set in space at the core of a huge mega corp's AI. 3 of the DMs ran a merc stile combat dungeons. Another of the DMs ran 2 players in Cyberspace, shutting down the pyramids defenses, and the final player was a psychic taking 1 of the chars( the extra chars were rotated in and out, providing strength) with him to a psychic cyper space. Largest multi DM game I ever ran.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 3, 2018 13:01:00 GMT -5
Oh wait, I did run a Cyberpunk game(havent thought about it in forever) It was a convention game w 36 players and 5 DMs. The pcs were part of an armed version of PETA. it was set in space at the core of a huge mega corp's AI. 3 of the DMs ran a merc stile combat dungeons. Another of the DMs ran 2 players in Cyberspace, shutting down the pyramids defenses, and the final player was a psychic taking 1 of the chars( the extra chars were rotated in and out, providing strength) with him to a psychic cyper space. Largest multi DM game I ever ran. Very nice, sounds like it would've been a fun game.
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Post by El Borak on Aug 3, 2018 16:54:45 GMT -5
Oh wait, I did run a Cyberpunk game(havent thought about it in forever) It was a convention game w 36 players and 5 DMs. The pcs were part of an armed version of PETA. it was set in space at the core of a huge mega corp's AI. 3 of the DMs ran a merc stile combat dungeons. Another of the DMs ran 2 players in Cyberspace, shutting down the pyramids defenses, and the final player was a psychic taking 1 of the chars( the extra chars were rotated in and out, providing strength) with him to a psychic cyper space. Largest multi DM game I ever ran. That is wild, were you one of the five DMs or were you the guy coordinating all give of them?
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Post by mao on Aug 3, 2018 17:31:06 GMT -5
Oh wait, I did run a Cyberpunk game(havent thought about it in forever) It was a convention game w 36 players and 5 DMs. The pcs were part of an armed version of PETA. it was set in space at the core of a huge mega corp's AI. 3 of the DMs ran a merc stile combat dungeons. Another of the DMs ran 2 players in Cyberspace, shutting down the pyramids defenses, and the final player was a psychic taking 1 of the chars( the extra chars were rotated in and out, providing strength) with him to a psychic cyper space. Largest multi DM game I ever ran. That is wild, were you one of the five DMs or were you the guy coordinating all give of them? I hope you find this as amusing as I do: I dont remember, It was my game/I wrote it but I cant remember what part I took
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Post by El Borak on Aug 3, 2018 17:55:48 GMT -5
That is wild, were you one of the five DMs or were you the guy coordinating all give of them? I hope you find this as amusing as I do: I dont remember, It was my game/I wrote it but I cant remember what part I took Well good for you, for many that would be the only thing they remembered. Have an exalt.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 3, 2018 18:01:31 GMT -5
Here is a link to the first in a series of blog posts by Geist on his blog centered around Cyberpunk 2020. There are two maps he posted earlier on the blog for future development Cape Point HUB & Neo-Tokyo-Chiba. The series centers on his version of Cape Point and is a wondrous example what can be done for cyberpunk games setting wise. To my best knowledge it is system neutral but does make reference to the default Cyberpunk 2020 setting based corporations and tech like AV vehicles, so you can easily port to any system you'd prefer to run a cyberpunk campaign.
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Post by El Borak on Aug 3, 2018 18:36:23 GMT -5
Here is a link to the first in a series of blog posts by Geist on his blog centered around Cyberpunk 2020. There are two maps he posted earlier on the blog for future development Cape Point HUB & Neo-Tokyo-Chiba. The series centers on his version of Cape Point and is a wondrous example what can be done for cyberpunk games setting wise. To my best knowledge it is system neutral but does make reference to the default Cyberpunk 2020 setting based corporations and tech like AV vehicles, so you can easily port to any system you'd prefer to run a cyberpunk campaign. That is really good stuff.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 3, 2018 18:52:40 GMT -5
Here is a link to the first in a series of blog posts by Geist on his blog centered around Cyberpunk 2020. There are two maps he posted earlier on the blog for future development Cape Point HUB & Neo-Tokyo-Chiba. The series centers on his version of Cape Point and is a wondrous example what can be done for cyberpunk games setting wise. To my best knowledge it is system neutral but does make reference to the default Cyberpunk 2020 setting based corporations and tech like AV vehicles, so you can easily port to any system you'd prefer to run a cyberpunk campaign. That is really good stuff. Thanks, this series of blog posts has inspired me to look into what I could do not just for cyberpunk but maybe a Post-Apocalyptic mini-regional setting.
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Post by El Borak on Aug 3, 2018 19:23:55 GMT -5
That is really good stuff. Thanks, this series of blog posts has inspired me to look into what I could do not just for cyberpunk but maybe a Post-Apocalyptic mini-regional setting. That's funny because I had the thought that Cyberpunk and Post-Apocalyptic must have a lot of overlap.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 3, 2018 21:07:17 GMT -5
Thanks, this series of blog posts has inspired me to look into what I could do not just for cyberpunk but maybe a Post-Apocalyptic mini-regional setting. That's funny because I had the thought that Cyberpunk and Post-Apocalyptic must have a lot of overlap. There can be depending on type of Post-Apocalyptic milieu but in general they are separate sub-genres of sci-fi. I tend to like to mix both with the P-A event happening to a cyberpunk future thus giving access to high technology, such as cybernetics, robots and such.
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Post by Harry Wolf on Aug 4, 2018 8:54:52 GMT -5
A lot of great information in this thread, especially the link to the series of blog posts by Geist, that is rad tastic.
Cyberpunk always calls to mind an image of bizzaro Superman for me. I just had a thought, Sniperpunk.
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Post by mao on Aug 4, 2018 13:53:24 GMT -5
That's funny because I had the thought that Cyberpunk and Post-Apocalyptic must have a lot of overlap. There can be depending on type of Post-Apocalyptic milieu but in general they are separate sub-genres of sci-fi. I tend to like to mix both with the P-A event happening to a cyberpunk future thus giving access to high technology, such as cybernetics, robots and such. Do you mean, connecting it to the 30 apoc that is going on here? if so you'd get help from prob all of us there.( Im sure we would let you have the tech you needed )
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 4, 2018 14:15:04 GMT -5
There can be depending on type of Post-Apocalyptic milieu but in general they are separate sub-genres of sci-fi. I tend to like to mix both with the P-A event happening to a cyberpunk future thus giving access to high technology, such as cybernetics, robots and such. Do you mean, connecting it to the 30 apoc that is going on here? if so you'd get help from prob all of us there.( Im sure we would let you have the tech you needed ) Initially no, but after thinking about it overnight I figured I could use Geist's Cape point setting for my own straight up Cyberpunk campaigns while I could instead develop a Post-Apocalyptic post cyberpunk setting. I could connect it to the 30 Apocalyptic discussions to mine for inspiration.
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Post by mao on Aug 4, 2018 14:19:34 GMT -5
Do you mean, connecting it to the 30 apoc that is going on here? if so you'd get help from prob all of us there.( Im sure we would let you have the tech you needed ) Initially no, but after thinking about it overnight I figured I could use Geist's Cape point setting for my own straight up Cyberpunk campaigns while I could instead develop a Post-Apocalyptic post cyberpunk setting. I could connect it to the 30 Apocalyptic discussions to mine for inspiration. You could do it with only one city standing, that could make the corps extra powerful, but you prob could do a whole continent w the rest of the world, Conan or Mad Max
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 4, 2018 17:50:11 GMT -5
Do you mean, connecting it to the 30 apoc that is going on here? if so you'd get help from prob all of us there.( Im sure we would let you have the tech you needed ) Initially no, but after thinking about it overnight I figured I could use Geist's Cape point setting for my own straight up Cyberpunk campaigns while I could instead develop a Post-Apocalyptic post cyberpunk setting. I could connect it to the 30 Apocalyptic discussions to mine for inspiration. Sounds really good, you should do it.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 4, 2018 17:51:00 GMT -5
Initially no, but after thinking about it overnight I figured I could use Geist's Cape point setting for my own straight up Cyberpunk campaigns while I could instead develop a Post-Apocalyptic post cyberpunk setting. I could connect it to the 30 Apocalyptic discussions to mine for inspiration. You could do it with only one city standing, that could make the corps extra powerful, but you prob could do a whole continent w the rest of the world, Conan or Mad Max This is also an excellent idea, why don't you (we) do all of the above.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 4, 2018 19:08:58 GMT -5
Initially no, but after thinking about it overnight I figured I could use Geist's Cape point setting for my own straight up Cyberpunk campaigns while I could instead develop a Post-Apocalyptic post cyberpunk setting. I could connect it to the 30 Apocalyptic discussions to mine for inspiration. You could do it with only one city standing, that could make the corps extra powerful, but you prob could do a whole continent w the rest of the world, Conan or Mad Max I was thinking of something like that as well. You see that if you read the Battle Angel Alita manga or Judge Dredd with the isolated Mega cities & Post-Apocalyptic wastelands beyond the city borders teaming with mutants & such.
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