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Post by mao on Jul 23, 2018 11:54:21 GMT -5
Ok so I had minis for an Ancient game called Legion so I decided to use my barbarians and my buddy played Rome. My Barbarians had no armor Great Swords and a special damage ability.so we decide on a point value and start the game. My buddy attacks w some archers and asks what AC am I, I say 10, thn he looks at me funny. We realized because of the hue bonus you get for AC 10 in the point system , i really should have using TWENTY TIMES AS MANY TROOPS AS HIM (something around this number). He said we surrender and we had a good Laff!
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Post by El Borak on Jul 23, 2018 15:09:05 GMT -5
Ok so I had minis for an Ancient game called Legion so I decided to use my barbarians and my buddy played Rome. My Barbarians had no armor Great Swords and a special damage ability.so we decide on a point value and start the game. My buddy attacks w some archers and asks what AC am I, I say 10, thn he looks at me funny. We realized because of the hue bonus you get for AC 10 , i really should have using TWENTY TIMES AS MANY TROOPS AS HIM (something around this number). He said we surrender and we had a good Laff! I'm lost here, you are saying that armorless Barbarians "AC 10" get such a huge defensive bonus in Swords & Spells that it is not worth shooting arrows at unarmored men? And if the barbarians are getting a huge bonus why do you need 20 times as many as you had? I am not following you here. |
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Post by mao on Jul 23, 2018 15:23:08 GMT -5
Ok so I had minis for an Ancient game called Legion so I decided to use my barbarians and my buddy played Rome. My Barbarians had no armor Great Swords and a special damage ability.so we decide on a point value and start the game. My buddy attacks w some archers and asks what AC am I, I say 10, thn he looks at me funny. We realized because of the hue bonus you get for AC 10 , i really should have using TWENTY TIMES AS MANY TROOPS AS HIM (something around this number). He said we surrender and we had a good Laff! I'm lost here, you are saying that armorless Barbarians "AC 10" get such a huge defensive bonus in Swords & Spells that it is not worth shooting arrows at unarmored men? And if the barbarians are getting a huge bonus why do you need 20 times as many as you had? I am not following you here. Ok that should be fixed |
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Post by El Borak on Jul 23, 2018 15:27:27 GMT -5
I'm lost here, you are saying that armorless Barbarians "AC 10" get such a huge defensive bonus in Swords & Spells that it is not worth shooting arrows at unarmored men? And if the barbarians are getting a huge bonus why do you need 20 times as many as you had? I am not following you here. Ok that should be fixed I'm sorry I still don't understand why the Romans are surrendering. |
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Post by mao on Jul 23, 2018 15:29:37 GMT -5
I'm sorry I still don't understand why the Romans are surrendering. Because the way the point work, you actually get points for AC 10, so if you did the math right , I got 20 to !, so I would have just eaten him alive |
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Post by El Borak on Jul 23, 2018 15:40:53 GMT -5
I'm sorry I still don't understand why the Romans are surrendering. Because the way the point work, you actually get points for AC 10, so if you did the math right , I got 20 to !, so I would have just eaten him alive I will have to get a copy of Swords & Spells and look at it, I have trouble groking that Gygax would have written a wargame where naked barbarians had an over whelming advantage against a fortified city. Not to mention that you said you should have had 20 times as many troops but you didn't and if you have such an advantage why would you need more troops? |
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Post by mao on Jul 23, 2018 15:43:08 GMT -5
Low AC in the game gives you points instaed of costing anything, I also believe Orc are given a bonus for being an orc, worst war game Ive ever seen
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Post by El Borak on Jul 23, 2018 15:53:21 GMT -5
Low AC in the game gives you points instaed of costing anything, I also believe Orc are given a bonus for being an orc, worst war game Ive ever seen I thought it was just supposed to be an update that cleaned up Chainmail some? |
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Post by mao on Jul 23, 2018 15:56:01 GMT -5
Low AC in the game gives you points instaed of costing anything, I also believe Orc are given a bonus for being an orc, worst war game Ive ever seen I thought it was just supposed to be an update that cleaned up Chainmail some? From what I rememmber it ws very D&D like |
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Post by El Borak on Jul 23, 2018 15:59:11 GMT -5
I thought it was just supposed to be an update that cleaned up Chainmail some? From what I rememmber it ws very D&D like I've never really looked at it and it looks like I should. |
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Post by mao on Jul 23, 2018 16:57:24 GMT -5
From what I rememmber it ws very D&D like I've never really looked at it and it looks like I should. That would be a waste of time and money |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 24, 2018 1:17:45 GMT -5
I've never really looked at it and it looks like I should. That would be a waste of time and money I have it but I have yet to read it so cannot comment on it at this time but I'll chime in once I do. |
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Post by El Borak on Jul 24, 2018 10:57:10 GMT -5
I've never really looked at it and it looks like I should. That would be a waste of time and money I got a cheap copy a long time ago. |
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Post by Mighty Darci on Jul 27, 2018 18:16:54 GMT -5
Swords & Spells is a great title, sounds like a retro clone title.
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Post by hengest on Apr 7, 2021 14:22:34 GMT -5
I thought it was just supposed to be an update that cleaned up Chainmail some? From what I rememmber it ws very D&D like I finally had a look at Swords and Spells recently, and while I've never used any part of it for anything, it really does feel like Chainmail re-done through the lens of D&D. It seems pretty cool overall, if a little dated. Like, Chainmail had its "Fantasy Supplement," but Swords & Spells is what happened when the fantasy supplement took over the entire system. There's a lot of little bits that I like, like on page 18: I don't know if there's anything like this in Chainmail or in other wargames of this type, I just like the idea a lot. Also the morale levels a couple pages later. A particularly lovely bit is the diagram on page 36. Just the unit and terrain types themselves: Unicorn Cavalry (concealed), light brush, Pikemen, Orc Spearmen, Warg / Goblin Cavalry, Manticores, Fire Giants, Sub. Commander Necromancer. With prior establishment of these types of creatures in-world, I can see how something like this could be extremely immersive and suggestive of a real fantasy world where these creatures represent impossibly real forces that are right there on the battlefield with Men. |
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 9, 2021 2:42:33 GMT -5
I have not read it for a very long time, I will have to pull my copy out and take a look.
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