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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 7, 2018 23:11:50 GMT -5
[This is a " What IF?" post for the mere fun of it. Not some lets see what Gary & crew meant for us to play. Just a harmless fun discussion topic.] In a thread on DF (found here) it discusses the implied setting of OD&D (including the 3LBBs, plus supplements & Strategic Review). I thought it was intriguing and figured it could inspire a discussion here as well. Read the thread and lets discuss it together. I know that these baked in assumptions might become the basis for a future OD&D setting I might use for a campaign. I know that reading the posts got me thinking of how I'd implement such a setting and I think that pulling inspiration from 'Is it wrong to pick up girls in a dungeon?', 'Made in Abyss', 'Log Horizon' & 'Sword Art Online' could easily make a fun setting. In the first two you have very OD&D 'Living Dungeon' trope as their core setting and the last two give you another take on it but via the trope that people from our world get sucked into a fantasy world - in their case it is their favorite MMO. I am sure others might take things in a totally different direction and love to here how you'd do it. |
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Post by ripx187 on Jul 8, 2018 16:21:37 GMT -5
That is some serious fussing over there! Unfortunately, I cannot contribute fresh ideas on this topic, as I'm still unfamiliar with the rules, and I am trying to get away from By the book play. There are some interesting thoughts going on which do relate to me and the current state of the milieu as it is now, which is kind of a coincidence.
The popular religion is not a spell-casting class, however, I generate the bulk of treasure randomly to save time and already I've rolled up three Cleric Scrolls. I chose to interpret these to be Lore dating back to an ancient religion and/or history which occultists are deeply interested in. These scrolls may possess powers which can be unlocked in the appropriate hands, but they also contain snippets of information, pieces of legends and myths which have been lost and forgotten.
Looking at the Rules as Written, I was very pleased to see that 1st lvl clerics have no spells. The bulk of the common clerics are first level, however, this begs the question, do the higher level clerics actually have spells which they keep secret? Do they know that they have them or simply lack the faith to cast these? These are interesting questions. Perhaps these scrolls are actually songs which must be sung, however, the language of reading the notes presented are lost yet the melodies themselves are still hummed by mothers and used as children's songs and nobody has any idea.
Another item which this brings up, if I write up a short snippet of lore, would the players be interested? One of my favourite video games is "Bioshock" and finding those little recordings which slowly tells the story of what happened actually became a huge part of the game for me. I know that I'm a huge nerd; The best part of Lord of the Rings was the mythology which Tolkien created. Only one of my players read and enjoyed The Silmarillion as much as I did, but hopefully, if I keep the handouts short the players will really dig it.
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Post by Admin Pete on Jul 8, 2018 21:41:25 GMT -5
I will have to spend some time reading that thread and then mull this over some before I can write a good reply to it.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 9, 2018 0:12:57 GMT -5
I like the idea that there might be a implied setting if you read all the supplementary material & then interpret it through your own imaginative prism. I'll be reading through my stuff and see what I come up with. As my Ruins of Dorgand setting may attest to - BtB is not an interest of mine, but i like using the core rules as a framework to build upon & tweak things as I see fit.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 9, 2018 0:48:39 GMT -5
ripx187 said: I am not sure what you mean by the above. Is it in reference to the DF thread or something in your home-brew setting? ripx187 said: I think the following quote might illuminate the BtB assumptions: This seems ti imply that Clerics & Magic-Users are able to find spell books of each level as they level. How they do so, will up to the individual Ref to decide what manner this occurs depending upon the way the campaign is designed. ripx187 said: This is a very intriguing way to justify Cleric Scrolls in a campaign specific manner ripx187. ripx187 said: I guess it depends upon if your players are into that kind of thing. I think if you can tie the lore to the goal of the adventure it might make reading & discussing the 'Lore Snippets' far more engaging to them. They might even look forward to them. Like you I am a big geek, I loved how in 'Elder Scrolls: Skyrim' had snippets of lore scattered in various books that often had a clue for some quest or new skill or spell you could learn. Though I've never read Tolkien's Silmarillian, I really enjoyed David & Leigh Eddings' 'The Rivan Codex' and Mark Smylie's setting lore in both his 'Artesia Afire' GN and his 'Artesia' annual issues for that very reason.
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Post by ripx187 on Jul 9, 2018 14:09:21 GMT -5
Sorry, Hexenritter Verlag, for being unclear. The popular religion in my setting is not a magical one, the clerics do not cast spells. I was musing aloud about this setting specific system. I do tend to free-write a bit. I probably should ask Admin Pete about a milieu folder of my own, huh. |
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Jul 10, 2018 7:29:10 GMT -5
Sorry, Hexenritter Verlag , for being unclear. The popular religion in my setting is not a magical one, the clerics do not cast spells. I was musing aloud about this setting specific system. I do tend to free-write a bit. I probably should ask Admin Pete about a milieu folder of my own, huh. Am SO TEMPTED to create a "MILIEU FOLDER OF RIP'S OWN" with exactly that title. |
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Post by ripx187 on Jul 10, 2018 8:43:33 GMT -5
Sorry, Hexenritter Verlag , for being unclear. The popular religion in my setting is not a magical one, the clerics do not cast spells. I was musing aloud about this setting specific system. I do tend to free-write a bit. I probably should ask Admin Pete about a milieu folder of my own, huh. Am SO TEMPTED to create a "MILIEU FOLDER OF RIP'S OWN" with exactly that title. See, where were you yesterday when I was trying to come up with a title? Oh, maybe I should call my setting: Rip's milieu, Milieu  |
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Post by Admin Pete on Jul 10, 2018 10:33:56 GMT -5
[This is a " What IF?" post for the mere fun of it. Not some lets see what Gary & crew meant for us to play. Just a harmless fun discussion topic.] I sometimes feel like we need to put this disclaimer on every thread. But we never should need to put this disclaimer on any thread. But it has inspired a new rule that I think is needed up in the Announcement section. So I am borrowing this for permanent use. |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 10, 2018 11:14:44 GMT -5
Nice. I hated to include it but after a few reactions to another "What if?" post I thought I needed to do so.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 10, 2018 11:32:40 GMT -5
[This is a " What IF?" post for the mere fun of it. Not some lets see what Gary & crew meant for us to play. Just a harmless fun discussion topic.] I sometimes feel like we need to put this disclaimer on every thread. But we never should need to put this disclaimer on any thread. But it has inspired a new rule that I think is needed up in the Announcement section. So I am borrowing this for permanent use. I like the edit you made to it Admin Pete. |
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Post by True Black Raven on Jul 10, 2018 18:28:37 GMT -5
Am SO TEMPTED to create a "MILIEU FOLDER OF RIP'S OWN" with exactly that title. See, where were you yesterday when I was trying to come up with a title? Oh, maybe I should call my setting: Rip's milieu, Milieu It could still be renamed to that.  |
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