Amber Diceless

[True Black Raven]

Has anyone played Amber Diceless? I am curious how it is played?

[captaincrumbcake]

Dunno.
With chits?

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Apr 15, 2018 15:46:44 GMT -5 True Black Raven said:

Has anyone played Amber Diceless? I am curious how it is played?

I've never played it. If you're a member over on ODD74? The admin there is a big fan of the game, I believe he runs (or maybe used to run) a forum based on it.

[Hexenritter Verlag]

Nope, the closest to diceless play is playing the Malifaux skirmish game - in a role playing? Nope. I likes rolling dice, tis just my preference. I won't slam anyone who likes Amber but I have zero interest in it. I haven't even read the books it is based on.

[True Black Raven]

Apr 15, 2018 16:03:34 GMT -5 captaincrumbcake said:

Dunno.
With chits?

Chips - potato or corn?

[True Black Raven]

Apr 15, 2018 16:16:01 GMT -5 @piper said:

Apr 15, 2018 15:46:44 GMT -5 True Black Raven said:

Has anyone played Amber Diceless? I am curious how it is played?

I've never played it. If you're a member over on ODD74? The admin there is a big fan of the game, I believe he runs (or maybe used to run) a forum based on it.

I'm a member over there under a different name. I don't post anymore because I am not a fan of GRRM and Game of Thrones for the same reason others are not.

[True Black Raven]

Apr 15, 2018 16:47:28 GMT -5 Hexenritter Verlag said:

Nope, the closest to diceless play is playing the Malifaux skirmish game - in a role playing? Nope. I likes rolling dice, tis just my preference. I won't slam anyone who likes Amber but I have zero interest in it. I haven't even read the books it is based on.

I like rolling dice too, but just was curious about how it works.

[True Black Raven]

Nine Princes in Amber (1970) Locus nominee — First book of the series, introducing Corwin and the slowly unfolding laws of the universe as related to Amber.

The Guns of Avalon (1972) — Second book of the first series.

Sign of the Unicorn (1975) Locus nominee — Third book of the first series.

The Hand of Oberon (1976) Ditmar winner Locus nominee — Fourth book of the first series.

The Courts of Chaos (1978) Locus nominee — Fifth book of the first series, culmination of the Corwin sequence.

Trumps of Doom (1985) Locus winner — First book of the second series, with Merlin as the new protagonist.

Blood of Amber (1986) Locus nominee — Second book of the second series.

Sign of Chaos (1987) Locus nominee — Third book of the second series.

Knight of Shadows (1989) — Fourth book of the second series.

Prince of Chaos (1991) — Final Amber book, the fifth of the second series.

"Prolog to Trumps of Doom" (1985) — Three pages describing Merlin's traversal of the Logrus.

"The Salesman's Tale" (1994) — Short story following Luke after he escapes from the Primal Pattern.

"Blue Horse, Dancing Mountains" (1995) — Short story involving Corwin, Dworkin, Suhuy, and a blue demon horse.

"The Shroudling & the Guisel" (1994) — Short story involving Merlin and Rhanda, which follows the events of Prince of Chaos.

"Coming to a Cord" (Summer 1995) — Short story from Frakir's point of view, following Merlin's ill-advised action of typing Frakir to a bedpost in Brand's room in Castle Amber.

"Hall of Mirrors" (March 1996) — Short story featuring Corwin and Luke.

The Dawn of Amber (August 2002) — First book in a trilogy prequel written by John Betancourt.

Roger Zelazny's Visual Guide to Castle Amber (November 1988) — Book featuring a guided tour of Castle Amber by Flora, complete with sketched maps and a set of Trumps.

The Complete Amber Sourcebook (January 1996) — Encyclopedia of Amber people, places, and things.

[True Black Raven]

Most of these contain SPOILERS.

Hinduism in Roger Zelazny's Lord of Light 

THE SURVIVAL OF THE FOOL IN MODERN HEROIC FANTASY 

IN SEARCH OF CREATIVE SOLITUDE IN MODERN FANTASY: AN ESSAY ON THE FASCINATION WITH EVIL

Character Development and Psychological Growth: Roger Zelazny’s "Great Theme"

"A Rose for Ecclesiastes."

The Artisan in Modern Fantasy

How does Roger Zelazny explore the Themes of Truth and Reality?

[True Black Raven]

Other Zelazny Works:

Coils

Damnation Alley

Donnerjack

The Doors of His Face, the Lamps of His Mouth

The Dream Master

Forever After

Isle of the Dead and Eye of Cat

Lord Demon

Lord of Light

Psychoshop (Zelazny's completion of Alfred Bester's unfinished novel)

Unicorn Variation (cassette)

Wilderness

The Williamson Effect (edited by Zelazny)

Anthologies Containing Zelazny Works

Burning With a Vision ("I Used to Think in Lines that Were Irregular to the Right" and "Dreamscape", poems) (also in hardcover)

Chicks in Chainmail ("Lady of Steel")

Explorers: SF Adventures to Far Horizons ("The Keys to December")

The Good Old Stuff: Adventure SF in the Grand Tradition ("The Doors of His Face, the Lamps of His Mouth")

A Magic Lover's Treasury of the Fantastic ("The Last Defender of Camelot")

My Favorite Fantasy Story ("Unicorn Variation")

My Favorite Science Fiction Story ("The Engine At Heartspring's Center")

Robert Silverberg Presents the Great Science Fiction Stories (1964) ("The Graveyard Heart") (hardcover)

The Science Fiction Century ("He Who Shapes") (hardcover)

Treasures of Fantasy ("Comes Now the Power")

Vampires: The Greatest Stories (hardcover) ("Dayblood") (back order)

Wild Cards Volume I ("The Sleeper") (trade paperback)

Wild Cards Volume II: Aces High ("Ashes to Ashes") (trade paperback)

Worldmakers: Sf Adventures in Terraforming ("The Keys to December")

[True Black Raven]

Books and Authors Recommended by Zelazny:

These selections are taken from my list of books commented on by Zelazny.

The Boat of a Million Years (by Poul Anderson)

The Last Legends of Earth (A.A. Attanasio)

Thrillogy (by Robert Bloch) (audio cassette read by Zelazny)

Jhereg (by Steven Brust)

To Reign in Hell (by Steven Brust) (includes forward by Zelazny)

Snow White, Blood Red (edited by Ellen Datlow & Terri Windling)

Radio Free Albemuth (by Philip K Dick)

Fourth Mansions (by R.A. Lafferty)

The Snow Queen (by Joan Vinge)

Doomsday Book (by Connie Willis)

Castle of Days (by Gene Wolfe)

Shadow & Claw (by Gene Wolfe) (includes The Shadow of the Torturer and The Claw of the Conciliator)

These are works by other people, read by Roger. I am unsure whether these are abridged or not.

Brak the Barbarian by John Jakes (May 1994)

Mark of the Demons by John Jakes (July 1994)

Nightwinds by Karl Edward Wagner

Raven's Eyrie by Karl Edward Wagner

Thrillogy by Robert Bloch (includes "Yours Truly Jack the Ripper", "Hellbound Train", and "The Movie People")

[thrash]

I've played it, though it was a long time ago. My recollection is that it is very difficult to get anyone to do something against their will: even if you overmatch them in a particular realm of conflict, it is fairly easy for them to simply avoid the contest. The system works reasonably well for the Amber setting, but would be a poor fit for almost anything else except, say, a campaign of Norse or Greco-Roman gods.

A similar but more recent game is Nobilis; I've never played it but it seems to have more tools for sustaining conflict. If I really wanted to play an Amber campaign, though, I think I'd look at FATE instead, and just use the Amber Diceless books as reference.

[colinouchou]

Never played Amber Diceless or even seem the game, also curious about how that works.

[colinouchou]

Apr 15, 2018 16:16:01 GMT -5 @piper said:

Apr 15, 2018 15:46:44 GMT -5 True Black Raven said:

Has anyone played Amber Diceless? I am curious how it is played?

I've never played it. If you're a member over on ODD74? The admin there is a big fan of the game, I believe he runs (or maybe used to run) a forum based on it.

Who, where?

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Apr 17, 2018 9:20:01 GMT -5 colinouchou said:

Who, where?

Here it is: adrp.proboards.com

It doesn’t look very lively, though. Head over there and get the discussion going!

[colinouchou]

Apr 17, 2018 9:25:39 GMT -5 @piper said:

Apr 17, 2018 9:20:01 GMT -5 colinouchou said:

Who, where?

Here it is: adrp.proboards.com

It doesn’t look very lively, though. Head over there and get the discussion going!

Wow, that is a ghost town! They have had four posts in 2018. But the one guy posted a link to his website and it is fantastic Shadowlands A set of pages dedicated to the Amber DRPG.  
He has the following things linked to on his site

Generic Amber

Character Creation or Points and how you should use them.

Attributes - My modifications to the base rules.

The Auction - The importance of rank, who's in and who's out, and provision for "New" players later in the campaign.

Powers - The Partial Powers Systems I'm using.

Rule Extensions - Extra stuff that integrates the Powers and Attributes System.

Character Examples - Two example character creations

Extended Character Examples - More extensive examples from the Keep of the Thirteenth Hour campaign Guide

I will have to take a look at those things and he also has a downloadable pdf of The Amber Players Guide which seems to be a fan created document.