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Post by mao on Jan 23, 2018 17:58:04 GMT -5
I hate making maps of dungeons. Hate it hate it hate it(back to the grind)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 20:55:54 GMT -5
My least favorite thing as a referee is to prepare a real corker of an adventure and never have it come into play for whatever reason.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 23:08:14 GMT -5
Players who act like they can't possibly lose.
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Post by Admin Pete on Jan 23, 2018 23:43:33 GMT -5
Indecisive players is my pet peeve. Don't dither around, make a decision. I like to play like I am there in the situation and I know that to live I need to be quick and decisive, but make wise choices, go with your gut and I like players who play like that. I am talking here about face to face play.
In the pbp, you have two things going on, plenty of time to make a decision, so people tend over think things and no face to face interaction, so people try too hard to not step on someones toes, both of which slow play down. I posit that an online game could run very fast, if there was a background of everyone having played extensively face to face with each other.
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Jan 24, 2018 6:37:41 GMT -5
Gathering a new group of people every time we moved. Too old and busy nowadays.
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Post by ripx187 on Jan 24, 2018 19:05:36 GMT -5
When you finally have a use for one of Gygax's crazy tables but you can't remember what book he put the damned thing in. The last time that this happened I remembered this cool random demon generator which I always wanted to use, but couldn't remember where it was. I poured over my books for 3 days searching for it. My memory is bad, I know this, but I knew that I had seen it, I just prayed that it wasn't in one of those Dragon Magazines. SPOILER! It wasn't. I had forgotten that Unearthed Arcana was divided into two books, a player section, and a DM section; during my research, I only checked the player Table of Contents. It was my wife who remembered the ultra secret DM stuff in the back of the book. ARG!!!!I had checked that thing 3 times :/
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Post by mao on Jan 25, 2018 12:23:11 GMT -5
When you finally have a use for one of Gygax's crazy tables but you can't remember what book he put the damned thing in. The last time that this happened I remembered this cool random demon generator which I always wanted to use, but couldn't remember where it was. I poured over my books for 3 days searching for it. My memory is bad, I know this, but I knew that I had seen it, I just prayed that it wasn't in one of those Dragon Magazines. SPOILER! It wasn't. I had forgotten that Unearthed Arcana was divided into two books, a player section, and a DM section; during my research, I only checked the player Table of Contents. It was my wife who remembered the ultra secret DM stuff in the back of the book. ARG!!!!I had checked that thing 3 times :/ I not laughing with you I laughing at u  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 16:51:34 GMT -5
Coordinating everyone's schedules so we can all play on the same day ...
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Post by simrion on Jan 25, 2018 19:49:49 GMT -5
Players who act like they can't possibly lose. This! Had a player who's character "snuffed it" and decried "I can't die, I'm the hero!" I laughed and responded "Yeah, a dead hero!" |
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Post by robkuntz on Jan 26, 2018 7:51:51 GMT -5
People who said they'd show up and play who don;t and don't even call to tell you that.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Feb 4, 2018 0:24:02 GMT -5
Players who don't show without letting me know & rules-lawyers grrr.
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Post by Robert the Black on Feb 8, 2018 15:12:54 GMT -5
People who said they'd show up and play who don;t and don't even call to tell you that. This!! Players who don't show without letting me know & rules-lawyers grrr. And this!! That just about covers it for me. |
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Post by Mighty Darci on Feb 9, 2018 10:01:10 GMT -5
Few things are worse than people who don't show and don't show. We never had this in dad's game, but the whole creeper thing is something to watch out for.
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Post by hengest on Feb 9, 2018 16:46:14 GMT -5
Few things are worse than people who don't show and don't show. We never had this in dad's game, but the whole creeper thing is something to watch out for. Does this mean "some guy who is a creep?" |
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Feb 10, 2018 0:17:01 GMT -5
Few things are worse than people who don't show and don't show. We never had this in dad's game, but the whole creeper thing is something to watch out for. Does this mean "some guy who is a creep?" Or some creep who is a guy? |
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Post by Jame Rowe on Feb 10, 2018 6:47:50 GMT -5
People who said they'd show up and play who don;t and don't even call to tell you that. Me too. Or show up twice and then quit. Or blame you for being a bad communicator when they are the ones who don't communicate. |
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Post by Mighty Darci on Feb 10, 2018 12:18:32 GMT -5
Few things are worse than people who don't show and don't show. We never had this in dad's game, but the whole creeper thing is something to watch out for. Does this mean "some guy who is a creep?" I've not experienced it myself, but I was talking about the oft reported creeper types who want to make everything a woman says or does sexual and can't keep his hands to himself or I suppose in some cases herself. So, yes, someone that is a creep and makes everyone or should make everyone uncomfortable with their presence. |
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Post by hengest on Feb 10, 2018 12:46:35 GMT -5
Does this mean "some guy who is a creep?" I've not experienced it myself, but I was talking about the oft reported creeper types who want to make everything a woman says or does sexual and can't keep his hands to himself or I suppose in some cases herself. So, yes, someone that is a creep and makes everyone or should make everyone uncomfortable with their presence. Have never sat through a game like this (unless I managed to forget). I've sat through OTHER situations like that, and even had to embarrass myself by shutting the guy down. Sounds like zero fun at the table. I wouldn't handle this skillfully as a ref. The party in question would be out on his / her ear. |
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Post by ripx187 on Feb 10, 2018 14:35:30 GMT -5
Does this mean "some guy who is a creep?" I've not experienced it myself, but I was talking about the oft reported creeper types who want to make everything a woman says or does sexual and can't keep his hands to himself or I suppose in some cases herself. So, yes, someone that is a creep and makes everyone or should make everyone uncomfortable with their presence. The ladies that I have always played with would chop off a few of those loose fingers as a warning. Funny enough, my wife's current character is a prostitute from London's East End. She uses her social position to her advantage, but nobody takes advantage of her. They might think that they do, but she always manages to get the better end of the deal. Her class is technically cleric, but if somebody is in need of a quiet murder . . . well. As DM I don't think that I have ever had to deal with this. Granted, we are all friends and a little bit of saucy teasing is to be expected, but we all value our friendship and know our boundries. |
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Post by Dartanian on Feb 10, 2018 23:36:32 GMT -5
People who don't show up and who never call or give you a heads up, just don't show.
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Post by The Master on Feb 11, 2018 21:29:02 GMT -5
Looks like we mostly agree that it is people who don't show up.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Feb 11, 2018 22:54:19 GMT -5
Though as I said above people who don't show & don't let you know about it; my second biggest peeve is "rules-lawyers". I've been in a number of groups marred by them, they memorize the rules & monster stats, then argue if you don't run a monster right or interpret the rules how they do. This is why I am going to OD&D or B/X, not a lot of rules & I can give my players a short document of house-rulings a head of time. Plus as I said in another thread, the stats in the monster sections are guidelines & not the law - I'll be up front with them, if you read the monster manuals to "prepare" you'll be sorely unprepared for how my monsters act, look or how dangerous they are. If a rule-lawyer complains about it, I'll tell them there is a door & good bye if you are not happy about it.
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Post by The Master on Feb 11, 2018 23:42:37 GMT -5
I do what a number of over people do on here, my monsters are not a static thing as listed in a stat block, they vary all over the place, the stat block is just the average.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Feb 12, 2018 1:23:34 GMT -5
In my RMU campaign the rules lawyer tried to argue with me on crocodile tactics since one went after him & could've killed him. A group of crocs will try to take a bite out of anything within range of it's teeth, even if it has to launch itself out of the water. You are correct, the stat block should only be the average.
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Post by ripx187 on Feb 12, 2018 20:12:13 GMT -5
I never name monsters, I just describe what they look like. The players will start calling them something but they know that they have no idea, and to make matters more difficult, I'll start calling the monsters whatever the players think that they are too.
I design a lot of my own creatures as well. We've played the same game for over 20 years, and many of my players are great DMs in their own rights. They know the Monster Manuals, you can't hold that against them.
As far as rules lawyering goes, I allow the players to reference the PHB, but not the DMG. If they want to run things according to AD&D core, fine! Or you can shut up and just let me handle it. I don't think that lawyering is bad, but if it does annoy me or they can prove that I did something wrong and it damaged the game I give them a Poker Chip that can be turned in during that session and can be used to make me review a call, take a move back, or allow them to reroll the dice. Seems to placate them.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Feb 12, 2018 21:20:31 GMT -5
I never name monsters, I just describe what they look like. The players will start calling them something but they know that they have no idea, and to make matters more difficult, I'll start calling the monsters whatever the players think that they are too. I design a lot of my own creatures as well. We've played the same game for over 20 years, and many of my players are great DMs in their own rights. They know the Monster Manuals, you can't hold that against them. As far as rules lawyering goes, I allow the players to reference the PHB, but not the DMG. If they want to run things according to AD&D core, fine! Or you can shut up and just let me handle it. I don't think that lawyering is bad, but if it does annoy me or they can prove that I did something wrong and it damaged the game I give them a Poker Chip that can be turned in during that session and can be used to make me review a call, take a move back, or allow them to reroll the dice. Seems to placate them. The thing is in my experience is "Rules Lawyers" become argumentative & often use rules as they interpret them to benefit themselves. I don't mind them if they simply assisting me if I am newer to the game, but often they do it only for their benefit. It is one thing if they are GMs, but if they distrupt the game to point out how I am running a monster "wrong" then I have issues. |
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Post by The Master on Feb 13, 2018 13:37:44 GMT -5
I never name monsters, I just describe what they look like. The players will start calling them something but they know that they have no idea, and to make matters more difficult, I'll start calling the monsters whatever the players think that they are too. I design a lot of my own creatures as well. We've played the same game for over 20 years, and many of my players are great DMs in their own rights. They know the Monster Manuals, you can't hold that against them. As far as rules lawyering goes, I allow the players to reference the PHB, but not the DMG. If they want to run things according to AD&D core, fine! Or you can shut up and just let me handle it. I don't think that lawyering is bad, but if it does annoy me or they can prove that I did something wrong and it damaged the game I give them a Poker Chip that can be turned in during that session and can be used to make me review a call, take a move back, or allow them to reroll the dice. Seems to placate them. The thing is in my experience is "Rules Lawyers" become argumentative & often use rules as they interpret them to benefit themselves. I don't mind them if they simply assisting me if I am newer to the game, but often they do it only for their benefit. It is one thing if they are GMs, but if they distrupt the game to point out how I am running a monster "wrong" then I have issues. I really don't have a problem with "Rules Lawyers," mainly because I just offer to trade seat with them. I've yet to have a taker, since they all know I can ref from a cold start and they know that I would ask the same of them. "We can trade places right now and you just continue from where I left off." Works every time.  |
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Post by robkuntz on Feb 15, 2018 14:30:05 GMT -5
The thing is in my experience is "Rules Lawyers" become argumentative & often use rules as they interpret them to benefit themselves. I don't mind them if they simply assisting me if I am newer to the game, but often they do it only for their benefit. It is one thing if they are GMs, but if they distrupt the game to point out how I am running a monster "wrong" then I have issues. I really don't have a problem with "Rules Lawyers," mainly because I just offer to trade seat with them. I've yet to have a taker, since they all know I can ref from a cold start and they know that I would ask the same of them. "We can trade places right now and you just continue from where I left off." Works every time. A wise man points the way through the door. |
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Feb 17, 2018 23:18:18 GMT -5
I eventually left a group because rules lawyers & bad player behavior ruined the fun; especially I had to spend a hour & half travel there & the same time back. The last time it wasn't as bad but the "rules Lawyer" was the host of my game so I tried to ignored those times he'd argue monsters or a rules calling.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Feb 17, 2018 23:38:35 GMT -5
I really don't have a problem with "Rules Lawyers," mainly because I just offer to trade seat with them. I've yet to have a taker, since they all know I can ref from a cold start and they know that I would ask the same of them. "We can trade places right now and you just continue from where I left off." Works every time. A wise man points the way through the door. Isn't there a saying about that, I can't quite remember how it goes, something like "Those who can, do; those who can't whine and complain." Or something like that! Or maybe it was "Those who can, do; those who can't say it can't be done." Or maybe it was "Those who can, do; those who can't nitpick the rest of us to death." Or maybe it was "Those who can, do; those who can't become politicians." Hmm, all about the same I guess! |
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