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Post by hengest on Jul 25, 2017 23:16:51 GMT -5
I've been reading Pendragon (5th ed.) and to me it seems like a great rulebook for adjusting and getting inspiration from. Gives a lot of information in one place, plus doesn't act like knowing all the info makes you a good player or DM.
Really, this book feels inspired to me.
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Post by scottanderson on Jul 26, 2017 19:46:49 GMT -5
Is there a free PDF of this or something like this? I would like to look, but not enough to buy anything
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Post by hengest on Jul 26, 2017 21:02:56 GMT -5
No official free PDF, to.my knowledge.
To me, it doesn't look that playable - though I'm quite enjoying it as a sourcebook. I dunno, though...maybe it's just my inability to adapt my mind to the system. I wonder if anyone here has played. Maybe I should have looked harder for an old thread...
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Post by Admin Pete on Jul 26, 2017 21:18:31 GMT -5
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Post by makofan on Sept 4, 2017 15:03:57 GMT -5
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Post by hengest on Jul 26, 2023 13:48:57 GMT -5
It's now $7.49. Worth it, but still. |
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Post by simrion on Jul 26, 2023 17:49:37 GMT -5
h...maybe it's just my inability to adapt my mind to the system. This! I think Pendragon is more a story game and would likely be excellent with like minded players and a GM well versed in the rules and subject matter. My groups are primarily D&D players so rules systems and subsystems. We did enjoy a successful, if short, campaign of the Song of fire & Ice. Again we were all "like-minded" and more than a little "adult-minded" as well which led to the game's success  |
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Post by hengest on Jul 27, 2023 9:57:52 GMT -5
h...maybe it's just my inability to adapt my mind to the system. This! I think Pendragon is more a story game and would likely be excellent with like minded players and a GM well versed in the rules and subject matter. My groups are primarily D&D players so rules systems and subsystems. We did enjoy a successful, if short, campaign of the Song of fire & Ice. Again we were all "like-minded" and more than a little "adult-minded" as well which led to the game's success I looked at 5E Pendragon again the other day after a break of years. That thing must have been a labor of love. Sure, maybe more a story game, but it's beautiful. I found it personally inspiring despite having little interest in story games. And, of course, story doesn't have to mean railroad. |
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Post by hengest on Jul 27, 2023 9:59:51 GMT -5
h...maybe it's just my inability to adapt my mind to the system. This! I think Pendragon is more a story game and would likely be excellent with like minded players and a GM well versed in the rules and subject matter. My groups are primarily D&D players so rules systems and subsystems. We did enjoy a successful, if short, campaign of the Song of fire & Ice. Again we were all "like-minded" and more than a little "adult-minded" as well which led to the game's success And that's cool that you had success with ASOIAF. I remember when the show was big, my friend (heavily into LARP-style stuff and online in-character RPing) said she didn't get why people who weren't into that stuff even liked the show or the books. It seems tailor-made for that crowd. I see what she meant. But Pendragon...Pendragon...Pendragon! There are so many beautiful things in those tales that the game system (or at least the book) makes you feel like you can ALMOST touch... |
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 30, 2023 7:46:24 GMT -5
No official free PDF, to.my knowledge. To me, it doesn't look that playable - though I'm quite enjoying it as a sourcebook. I dunno, though...maybe it's just my inability to adapt my mind to the system. I wonder if anyone here has played. Maybe I should have looked harder for an old thread... I discovered a copy of Pendragon - 4th edition, I believe - at the best local used bookstore here. It was a great looking thick book full of detail. I was highly intrigued by the book and would pull it off the shelf several times in the next few weeks. Something became clear to me. I got the impression that Pendragon places much more emphasis on knightly duties, court intrigues, etc. That stuff is great to watch and read but I don't know if a long-term campaign could be successful. This isn't a criticism of the rules at all. In my experience, it seems that many of these ideas could be used to enhance a game of D&D but the groups I've been involved with wouldn't want that stuff to be the main focus. In some ways, it seems like the "anti-D&D" due to it being a more cerebral game. That's just me though. |
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 30, 2023 7:49:24 GMT -5
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Post by hengest on Aug 1, 2023 11:18:56 GMT -5
No official free PDF, to.my knowledge. To me, it doesn't look that playable - though I'm quite enjoying it as a sourcebook. I dunno, though...maybe it's just my inability to adapt my mind to the system. I wonder if anyone here has played. Maybe I should have looked harder for an old thread... I discovered a copy of Pendragon - 4th edition, I believe - at the best local used bookstore here. It was a great looking thick book full of detail. I was highly intrigued by the book and would pull it off the shelf several times in the next few weeks. Something became clear to me. I got the impression that Pendragon places much more emphasis on knightly duties, court intrigues, etc. That stuff is great to watch and read but I don't know if a long-term campaign could be successful. This isn't a criticism of the rules at all. In my experience, it seems that many of these ideas could be used to enhance a game of D&D but the groups I've been involved with wouldn't want that stuff to be the main focus. In some ways, it seems like the "anti-D&D" due to it being a more cerebral game. That's just me though. I also get the feeling it must play very different from D&D. But hey, different is okay with me... |
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Aug 1, 2023 12:45:47 GMT -5
I discovered a copy of Pendragon - 4th edition, I believe - at the best local used bookstore here. It was a great looking thick book full of detail. I was highly intrigued by the book and would pull it off the shelf several times in the next few weeks. Something became clear to me. I got the impression that Pendragon places much more emphasis on knightly duties, court intrigues, etc. That stuff is great to watch and read but I don't know if a long-term campaign could be successful. This isn't a criticism of the rules at all. In my experience, it seems that many of these ideas could be used to enhance a game of D&D but the groups I've been involved with wouldn't want that stuff to be the main focus. In some ways, it seems like the "anti-D&D" due to it being a more cerebral game. That's just me though. I also get the feeling it must play very different from D&D. But hey, different is okay with me... Yes, very much so! I can see the challenges involved in running a long term Pendragon campaign. I don't think it's impossible but I do think it takes more effort to run it "in an authentic" manner. |
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Post by simrion on Aug 2, 2023 5:04:28 GMT -5
I also get the feeling it must play very different from D&D. But hey, different is okay with me... Yes, very much so! I can see the challenges involved in running a long term Pendragon campaign. I don't think it's impossible but I do think it takes more effort to run it "in an authentic" manner. I suspect it's easier to run with fewer players involved as well. My tables get up to 8 or 9 at a time. |
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Aug 2, 2023 10:34:31 GMT -5
Yes, very much so! I can see the challenges involved in running a long term Pendragon campaign. I don't think it's impossible but I do think it takes more effort to run it "in an authentic" manner. I suspect it's easier to run with fewer players involved as well. My tables get up to 8 or 9 at a time. Oh, I bet you are absolutely correct! |
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Post by hengest on Aug 7, 2023 21:24:05 GMT -5
I get the strangest feeling when I look at Pendragon. I can see that from a Murkhillian perspective, it looks kind of "railroady." At the same time, I imagine gameplay, and I think: well, it's not actually a railroad if there's some overall history kind of predetermined, but the PCs are free to act as they will and do what they wish with what's given to them.
Of course, there's nothing that says the ref can't allow the PCs to break the "prefab history" in some way.
I love Murkhillian flavor but there's something so attractive to me about Pendragon. I wonder how it compares to En Garde, which I've never even peeked at, but I know RJK loves.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Aug 8, 2023 1:16:59 GMT -5
I get the strangest feeling when I look at Pendragon. I can see that from a Murkhillian perspective, it looks kind of "railroady." At the same time, I imagine gameplay, and I think: well, it's not actually a railroad if there's some overall history kind of predetermined, but the PCs are free to act as they will and do what they wish with what's given to them. Of course, there's nothing that says the ref can't allow the PCs to break the "prefab history" in some way. I love Murkhillian flavor but there's something so attractive to me about Pendragon. I wonder how it compares to En Garde, which I've never even peeked at, but I know RJK loves. Having a world with a history is not a railroad, having a world were player choices mean nothing is a railroad. I like a lot about Pendragon and I think it would be a lot of fun to blend a lot of it into an OD&D world. |
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Post by muddywater on Mar 28, 2024 0:27:06 GMT -5
I get the strangest feeling when I look at Pendragon. I can see that from a Murkhillian perspective, it looks kind of "railroady." At the same time, I imagine gameplay, and I think: well, it's not actually a railroad if there's some overall history kind of predetermined, but the PCs are free to act as they will and do what they wish with what's given to them. Of course, there's nothing that says the ref can't allow the PCs to break the "prefab history" in some way. I love Murkhillian flavor but there's something so attractive to me about Pendragon. I wonder how it compares to En Garde, which I've never even peeked at, but I know RJK loves. If you have been running a D&D campaign world for 30 years, it has a history, but that does not mean the players cannot head off into the unknown. |
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