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Post by hengest on Mar 17, 2022 18:15:31 GMT -5
Upas Tree To all appearances, this is a well-preserved snag (dead tree). Stage 3 below (not declining but dead). #/media/File:Snag_Stages.jpg)  Although it is no longer alive, the tree maintains a network of sickly roots that draw nourishment away from other trees and plant life in the area. The tree was cursed some time ago, but this only hastened its death. It did not act as undead until it died (when it was stage 1 or stage 2, it behaved normally). Despite its nourishment-stealing habit, it continues down the path of a snag's decomposition. It does not do anything positive with the nourishment it steals. Yes it becomes more deadly as its own form falls apart. At stage 3, it can affect only its immediate surroundings. By stage 9, it might be drawing resources off from an entire valley. Artificial attempts to destroy it will only increase its power accordingly. Burning may destroy it. Destruction of the tree is not well-understood in the few tales that speak of it. Some suggest that all the vitality it stole will be redistributed in a strange burst. One oral tale says that destruction of an advanced undead Upas will open a door of some kind. The truth of this matter is not known. 
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Post by hengest on Mar 17, 2022 19:24:54 GMT -5
Wight-Pig
May be seen in the dead of night in lands that were once cultivated but have been reclaimed by the wild. It has not been noted in truly wild areas, nor in cities.
It is possible that the wight-pig is not magically maintained, but is a kind of severe time-dysfunction localized to a pig.
The creature continues to eat idly but not raveously, snorting up various objects. It has no digestive system anymore, so they may burst or leak from its belly. Sometimes wight-pigs contain gold or even gems of unknown provenance. Much of what they contain is trivial plant material or simply bits of junk.
It is quite dangerous if it takes note of the living, which it does not always do. When attacking, it is remarkably swift. A successful snout attack drains the victim of vital energy for over a week. This state can ease into recovery, but if that does not happen within 1d10 days, opportunistic infections may take root.
The wight-pig will not appear aboveground when more than half the moon's face is lit.
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Post by hengest on Mar 19, 2022 17:05:53 GMT -5
Ghotato (Ghost Potato)
The vine and its root vegetables are ghostly and appear only at night. They are barely tangible. Attempting to eat them may cause a shocking illness. However, they are extremely attractive to and nutritious for vampires, whose undeath they are said even to cure.
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Post by hengest on Jul 1, 2022 21:37:06 GMT -5
This thread is ridiculous, but I love it. Been thinking about undead, thanks to The Semi-Retired Gamer's ongoing series of great undead monsters. Wonder if a setting could support enough undead that the locals know a lot about them, different types and so on, without making it trivial. A kind of perpetually haunted world. |
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 1, 2022 21:47:55 GMT -5
This thread is ridiculous, but I love it. Been thinking about undead, thanks to The Semi-Retired Gamer's ongoing series of great undead monsters. Wonder if a setting could support enough undead that the locals know a lot about them, different types and so on, without making it trivial. A kind of perpetually haunted world. Thanks for the shout out! Ooh, that's a great idea!!! Different undead coming about from different sources, some undead occurring "naturally" and some through magic, different turning table results?, different forms of turning, etc. Thinking cap on.... |
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 1, 2022 21:52:16 GMT -5
Intelligent undead?
Reaver could be an undead with a curse to complete an unfinished task or right a wrong.
More...
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 1, 2022 21:55:29 GMT -5
A more resistant form of undead that only 1 in a group will be turned on a success rather than so many HD worth.
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 1, 2022 21:56:54 GMT -5
Might need a revised & expanded turn undead table...
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 2, 2022 4:09:35 GMT -5
Might need a revised & expanded turn undead table... Maybe new results like Banish, Pacify, Destroy, and Turn? BANISH would cause the undead to leave the area. PACIFY would cause the undead to stand motionless for the next round. DESTROY would cause the undead to "die". TURN would result in the undead now being controlled by this character. Just a few examples to get thoughts down. Some of these results (TURN) might not apply to some undead and the TURN may stay as originally written but a new mechanic for two clerics fighting to SEIZE CONTROL of undead may be added. |
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Jul 2, 2022 5:20:08 GMT -5
Post by mao on Jul 2, 2022 5:20:08 GMT -5
Might need a revised & expanded turn undead table... Maybe new results like Banish, Pacify, Destroy, and Turn? BANISH would cause the undead to leave the area. PACIFY would cause the undead to stand motionless for the next round. DESTROY would cause the undead to "die". TURN would result in the undead now being controlled by this character. Just a few examples to get thoughts down. Some of these results (TURN) might not apply to some undead and the TURN may stay as originally written but a new mechanic for two clerics fighting to SEIZE CONTROL of undead may be added. |
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Jul 2, 2022 6:22:13 GMT -5
Post by mao on Jul 2, 2022 6:22:13 GMT -5
I think that I never rolled on the turn undead table,ever
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Post by mao on Jul 2, 2022 6:35:19 GMT -5
I think that I never rolled on the turn undead table,ever |
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 2, 2022 8:07:43 GMT -5
Maybe new results like Banish, Pacify, Destroy, and Turn? BANISH would cause the undead to leave the area. PACIFY would cause the undead to stand motionless for the next round. DESTROY would cause the undead to "die". TURN would result in the undead now being controlled by this character. Just a few examples to get thoughts down. Some of these results (TURN) might not apply to some undead and the TURN may stay as originally written but a new mechanic for two clerics fighting to SEIZE CONTROL of undead may be added. I would like a way to simulate opposing priests battling for control of undead. |
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Post by mao on Jul 2, 2022 8:09:47 GMT -5
I was just high lighting the thread for myself.Gimme an hour to think of a cool answer
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Post by hengest on Jul 2, 2022 10:07:55 GMT -5
All cool stuff on here, guys. We can make a breakout thred elsewhere if you two really get cooking. I like what I'm hearing.
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Post by mao on Jul 2, 2022 10:36:43 GMT -5
Let's do this.
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Jul 2, 2022 10:39:35 GMT -5
Post by mao on Jul 2, 2022 10:39:35 GMT -5
Ok are you trying to represent good vrs evil Evil vrs evil..etc...?
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Post by hengest on Jul 2, 2022 10:56:30 GMT -5
Ok are you trying to represent good vrs evil Evil vrs evil..etc...? I had no intent but to make some fun stuff. Do with it what you will. |
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Post by mao on Jul 2, 2022 11:00:47 GMT -5
Ok I've got the ball first
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 2, 2022 11:21:21 GMT -5
The only real intention I had was showcasing my appreciation for the undead as my favorite monster type by increasing the lore and variety. Typically, I would say good vs. evil is part of it BUt I also wanted to expand on that. I think there's room for expanding the priest vs. priest aspect of controlling the undead like I mentioned above with varying results. Why wouldn't a lawful priest attempt to turn undead creatures back against their evil summoner in some cases?
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Post by mao on Jul 2, 2022 11:25:43 GMT -5
Ok we can get into the weeds or just make something easy, A table is not the way to do this, it needs to be a contested happening that both priests roll for. The easiest way to do that is to simply roll 1d20 each and add modifiers,the modifiers being poss from Wis or Level or god worshiped have a spirited descusion on the simplest of lists of modifiers, so that's whatt I am going to start with,a small list of them..
So I am suggesting that this is where we start from.
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Jul 2, 2022 11:26:56 GMT -5
Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 2, 2022 11:26:56 GMT -5
Ok we can get into the weeds or just make something easy, A table is not the way to do this, it needs to be a contested happening that both priests roll for. The easiest way to do that is to simply roll 1d20 each and add modifiers,the modifiers being poss from Wis or Level or god worshiped have a spirited descusion on the simplest of lists of modifiers, so that's whatt I am going to start with,a small list of them.. So I am suggesting that this is where we start from. ?? Fire away. |
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Post by mao on Jul 2, 2022 17:07:02 GMT -5
Ghotato (Ghost Potato)The vine and its root vegetables are ghostly and appear only at night. They are barely tangible. Attempting to eat them may cause a shocking illness. However, they are extremely attractive to and nutritious for vampires, whose undeath they are said even to cure. Very Nice |
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 2, 2022 21:20:44 GMT -5
This is a very rough first draft of what I was envisioning to simulate a battle of wills between 2 opposed Clerics for control of the undead between them. There are two possible methods mentioned below. The first one is the quickest way, but both offer pretty quick results and a variety of possibilities. Other considerations to add will include modifiers to the roll based on WIS modifier and maybe a level vs level modifier as well. The 2 methods are briefly described below.Method I: 2d6 vs 2d6, High Roll WinsJust like the title says. Each Cleric rolls 2D6 then adjusts by adding WIS modifier. Whoever rolls the highest, wins the battle of wills for control of the undead. Obviously, if the winner is maintaining control, then they would likely not make any changes. If someone new gains control, then they gain control of random number of undead and can cause them to leave, turn against the other undead, go for the opposing cleric, etc. I haven't worked out any details yet, but I would guess rule that the higher the roll then the larger number of undead that the winner would now control. Maybe the difference between the rolls could be the number of undead now under control by the winner?
Method II: 2d6 vs 2d6, Results TableJust like above, both Clerics roll 2D6 then adjust that score by their WIS modifier. The final scores are used to reference a chart with results that will interpret the outcome of the battle of wills to control the undead. | 2D6 Rolls | 2,3 | 4,5 | 6,7 | 8,9 | 10,11 | 12+ | | 2,3 | No Change | Confuse | Uncontrolled | Control | Turn | Destroy | | 4,5 | Confuse | No Change | Confuse | Uncontrolled | Control | Turn | | 6,7 | Uncontrolled | Confuse | No Change | Confuse | Uncontrolled | Control | | 8,9 | Control | Uncontrolled | Confuse | No Change | Confuse | Uncontrolled | | 10,11 | Turn | Control | Uncontrolled | Confuse | No Change | Confuse | | 12+ | Destroy | Turn | Control | Uncontrolled | Confuse | No Change |
The control of the undead remains the same. Confuse: The undead are stuck in a state resembling shock while the Clerics battle for control. The undead stand motionless. Uncontrolled: The undead are under no one's control and will attack whoever they are able to attack. Turn: A number of the undead are turned away. Destroy: A number of the undead are destroyed.
There is the first draft. Maybe it's an unnecessary complication added to the rules. Maybe someone will like it and have something to add. Whatever the result, it was an idea that was stuck in my head, and I wanted to get it out.
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Post by hengest on Jul 2, 2022 21:27:02 GMT -5
There is the first draft. Maybe it's an unnecessary complication added to the rules. Maybe someone will like it and have something to add. Whatever the result, it was an idea that was stuck in my head, and I wanted to get it out. This is killer. I'll read it again tomorrow, but I doubt I'm going to have any suggestions. |
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Post by hengest on Jul 2, 2022 21:27:18 GMT -5
Ghotato (Ghost Potato)The vine and its root vegetables are ghostly and appear only at night. They are barely tangible. Attempting to eat them may cause a shocking illness. However, they are extremely attractive to and nutritious for vampires, whose undeath they are said even to cure. Very Nice Thanks, it's silly, but I liked it. |
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Jul 2, 2022 21:30:08 GMT -5
There is the first draft. Maybe it's an unnecessary complication added to the rules. Maybe someone will like it and have something to add. Whatever the result, it was an idea that was stuck in my head, and I wanted to get it out. This is killer. I'll read it again tomorrow, but I doubt I'm going to have any suggestions. Thanks, hengest! I appreciate it!! |
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Sept 20, 2022 11:22:16 GMT -5
Revisiting this thread I am enthused with it. hengest have an Exalt! |
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Post by hengest on Sept 20, 2022 21:20:46 GMT -5
Revisiting this thread I am enthused with it. hengest have an Exalt! Another forgotten one. Thanks! |
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Post by mao on Sept 21, 2022 9:10:47 GMT -5
I have an undead tumble weed somewhere here
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