|
Post by Admin Pete on Nov 3, 2017 23:36:29 GMT -5
Game Setting - How long after the Apocalypse does the game take place - shortly after? or a long time after? or somewhere in between? I like about 3,000 to 5000 years later myself, what do you like?
|
|
|
Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Feb 22, 2018 15:23:51 GMT -5
I voted for 20, 100 & 500 years, mainly it still feel Post Apocalyptic to me, where as you get thousands of years ruins are fully crumbled to dust, you might have a few things that survived if in a secure facility if it hasn't been discovered & looted by then. If it was past a hundred years new civilizations will be created - depending on the survivors ingenuity & the resources available, how those civilizations developed technologically.
|
|
|
Post by True Black Raven on Mar 23, 2018 17:57:27 GMT -5
I like the 1000 to 2000 year range, but I could see using the 10,000 years or longer also.
|
|
|
Post by mormonyoyoman on Mar 23, 2018 19:22:07 GMT -5
For some reason, 500 years seems right to me. Probably the influence of Philip Nowlan.
|
|
|
Post by Admin Pete on Mar 24, 2018 12:44:23 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by mormonyoyoman on Mar 24, 2018 14:18:18 GMT -5
Besides the two Tony "Buck" Rogers novels, Kindle has several other Nowlan books. Memoware used to have almost all of them. I need to look at DriveThru Fiction and other pdf sites.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 15:47:53 GMT -5
Besides the two Tony "Buck" Rogers novels, Kindle has several other Nowlan books. Memoware used to have almost all of them. I need to look at DriveThru Fiction and other pdf sites. Most of the Barsoom novels by ERB are free for Kindle and d/l from Amazon. They are arguably post-apocalyptic, though the downfall was a [censored] of the way back in time.
|
|
|
Post by True Black Raven on Jun 8, 2018 9:38:40 GMT -5
Besides the two Tony "Buck" Rogers novels, Kindle has several other Nowlan books. Memoware used to have almost all of them. I need to look at DriveThru Fiction and other pdf sites. Most of the Barsoom novels by ERB are free for Kindle and d/l from Amazon. They are arguably post-apocalyptic, though the downfall was a [censored] of the way back in time. Didn't one of the books say something about it being a million years ago when the oceans started to shrink? I don't know which one but I am sure there was a number in one of the books.
|
|
|
Post by mormonyoyoman on Jun 8, 2018 20:34:28 GMT -5
Most of the Barsoom novels by ERB are free for Kindle and d/l from Amazon. They are arguably post-apocalyptic, though the downfall was a [censored] of the way back in time. Didn't one of the books say something about it being a million years ago when the oceans started to shrink? I don't know which one but I am sure there was a number in one of the books. Not that I remember, though it's been decades since I read them. Seems I remember something like that in one of the Niven/Pournelle/? sequels. To the Tony Rogers, not Buck Rogers, stories. They had to clearly separate the characters since the Dille kids own Buck but not Anthony - who may be public domain.
|
|
|
Post by Mighty Darci on Jun 9, 2018 9:20:44 GMT -5
I would vote for 100,000 years after the "first" apocalypse with there having been an unknown number of them.
|
|
|
Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 9, 2018 20:09:14 GMT -5
Two good P-A comics are the Wake by Snyder & Murphy and Wasteland by Johnston & Mitten are worth a read.
|
|
|
Post by bravewolf on Jul 13, 2018 14:02:27 GMT -5
I like 1,000 years because Yoshihisa Tagami's Grey graphic novel was able to cook up a cool history with that much distance from the apocalypse. Anybody ever read Grey? Viz Comics published it here in the 1980s.
I am toying with the idea of doing a Grey campaign with Aftermath! by Fantasy Games Unlimited.
I made a second selection: 10,000 years because that is the approximate timescale between the Butlerian Jihad and the events of the first Dune novel.
|
|
|
Post by El Borak on Jul 13, 2018 14:36:40 GMT -5
I like 1,000 years because Yoshihisa Tagami's Grey graphic novel was able to cook up a cool history with that much distance from the apocalypse. Anybody ever read Grey? Viz Comics published it here in the 1980s. I am toying with the idea of doing a Grey campaign with Aftermath! by Fantasy Games Unlimited. I've not read that, but it would be fun to see an Aftermath! campaign.
|
|
|
Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 13, 2018 18:38:33 GMT -5
I like 1,000 years because Yoshihisa Tagami's Grey graphic novel was able to cook up a cool history with that much distance from the apocalypse. Anybody ever read Grey? Viz Comics published it here in the 1980s. I am toying with the idea of doing a Grey campaign with Aftermath! by Fantasy Games Unlimited. I might have read an issue of it when Viz produced its translated version, but I can't remember any detail. That said, I loved the early Battle Angel Alita P-A/Cyberpunk manga that came out. I'd love to see what you do with it bravewolf.
|
|
|
Post by bravewolf on Jul 13, 2018 18:53:49 GMT -5
Thanks! It might be a minute before I have anything ginned up in that vein...I have another post-apoc project in the queue ahead of Grey...
|
|
|
Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 13, 2018 18:57:29 GMT -5
Thanks! It might be a minute before I have anything ginned up in that vein...I have another post-apoc project in the queue ahead of Grey... Oh what is it about? I have one I need to work on myself a Dieselpunk supernatural P-A project but I need to do research first.
|
|
|
Post by bravewolf on Jul 13, 2018 19:07:28 GMT -5
Thanks! It might be a minute before I have anything ginned up in that vein...I have another post-apoc project in the queue ahead of Grey... Oh what is it about? I have one I need to work on myself a Dieselpunk supernatural P-A project but I need to do research first. Dieselpunk...rad! Do share when you have something. What do you need to research? My other post-apoc project is tentatively called Legends of the Fertile Crescent. It takes place 101 years after the Noahic Flood. I am going to test the waters with a Braunstein-style scenario with my gaming group. If it takes off, I will likely reskin the Barons of Braunstein rules for sustained campaign play. I pretty much have the first scenario designed & am working on minis and scenery as time permits.
|
|
|
Post by mormonyoyoman on Jul 13, 2018 20:35:47 GMT -5
That would be an AMAZING milieu in which to game! Let us know if you PbP with it. Or publish it. It might even be worth crawling to wherever you said you live but I forgot.
|
|
|
Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 13, 2018 20:42:46 GMT -5
Oh what is it about? I have one I need to work on myself a Dieselpunk supernatural P-A project but I need to do research first. Dieselpunk...rad! Do share when you have something. What do you need to research? My other post-apoc project is tentatively called Legends of the Fertile Crescent. It takes place 101 years after the Noahic Flood. I am going to test the waters with a Braunstein-style scenario with my gaming group. If it takes off, I will likely reskin the Barons of Braunstein rules for sustained campaign play. I pretty much have the first scenario designed & am working on minis and scenery as time permits. I think you mentioned that in the G+ Braunsteins group right? I will share. I want to research the period just before the 1933 in Europe up until the Japanese attacked the USA thus plunging the USA into the War. the gist of it will be something triggers a cataclysm that flood the world with magic & monsters of myth (with a a serious nod to Mary Shelley & Brom Stoker and the Hollywood films inspired by them). Add some dieselpunk sci-fi tech to boot.
|
|
|
Post by bravewolf on Jul 13, 2018 20:49:59 GMT -5
That would be an AMAZING milieu in which to game! Let us know if you PbP with it. Or publish it. It might even be worth crawling to wherever you said you live but I forgot. Yeah, mormonyoyoman , I always wished that the Biblical writers had been inspired to write more about the world of Genesis 10, but now we get to imagine it Thanks for the encouragement - I will keep y'all posted. You forgot how to crawl?? On the real, I am one time zone west of you, I believe, downhill from Donner's Family Take-Out.
|
|
|
Post by mormonyoyoman on Jul 13, 2018 21:31:40 GMT -5
That would be an AMAZING milieu in which to game! Let us know if you PbP with it. Or publish it. It might even be worth crawling to wherever you said you live but I forgot. Yeah, mormonyoyoman , I always wished that the Biblical writers had been inspired to write more about the world of Genesis 10, but now we get to imagine it Thanks for the encouragement - I will keep y'all posted. You forgot how to crawl?? On the real, I am one time zone west of you, I believe, downhill from Donner's Family Take-Out. They (scribes of Genesis, et al) did write more - lots more. It's amazing (There's that word again.) that as much survived as it has, considering hand-copying, translations of translations of translations, warfare, the environment of the Middle East, Alexandria's destruction, repression of the writings, and hand-scribing from memory when the high priests who were to commit the Torah to memory were put to death so often. Then filtering out or in the various apocrypha (Real or historical fiction/choose one) and THEN most of Europe making it a capital crime to read or translate them into then-modern language. Just following that thread would make a generational epic campaign that would drive any sane gamesmaster - - Wait. ARE there any sane gamesmasters? You've opened a big honking can of worms which may need to be given a separate thread. As it gels into a game or develops into a setting, what would you say to having a separate sub-forum for it?
|
|
|
Post by bravewolf on Jul 13, 2018 23:16:34 GMT -5
Dieselpunk...rad! Do share when you have something. What do you need to research? My other post-apoc project is tentatively called Legends of the Fertile Crescent. It takes place 101 years after the Noahic Flood. I am going to test the waters with a Braunstein-style scenario with my gaming group. If it takes off, I will likely reskin the Barons of Braunstein rules for sustained campaign play. I pretty much have the first scenario designed & am working on minis and scenery as time permits. I think you mentioned that in the G+ Braunsteins group right? I will share. I want to research the period just before the 1933 in Europe up until the Japanese attacked the USA thus plunging the USA into the War. the gist of it will be something triggers a cataclysm that flood the world with magic & monsters of myth (with a a serious nod to Mary Shelley & Brom Stoker and the Hollywood films inspired by them). Add some dieselpunk sci-fi tech to boot. That's right, Hexenritter Verlag, I did write about this at the Barons of Braunstein G+ group. I haven't made any progress since Regarding your setting concept: Do you expect to focus on the Pacific Theater during development, the European Theater, or the whole shebang?
|
|
|
Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 14, 2018 0:39:04 GMT -5
In the European Theater initially but eventually the whole shebang.
|
|
|
Post by bravewolf on Jul 14, 2018 1:52:10 GMT -5
In the European Theater initially but eventually the whole shebang. Then you will want to get steeped in the Weimar Republic's sociocultural milieu. One way to get the feel of it is to watch Babylon Berlin on Netflix. It's well done: good acting, awesome sets, legit German dialect for the time and geographies, and the vibe of a fragile democratic republic on the brink of utter failure (and it obviously failed, witness the Nazi brand of fascism). Generation War gives another look on the eve of the war's outbreak but I found it a little revisionist in feel. Maybe I am being cynical. There are loads of British popular films on the war as well. The documentaries are legion but often do little to evoke the mood or Zeitgeist of those times. Books are likewise commonplace on these subjects. Other good pop culture takes have to include Indian Jones and certain issues of Captain America comics. For the Pacific Theater, Tora! Tora! Tora! makes a good attempt to represent the Japanese and American cultural drivers pre-Pearl Harbor. I don't know whether The Thin Red Line has any use at all to your setting, but Dag, it's gorgeously filmed. Back to Europe for a sec, for stellar tank action, Fury is aces. Technically very astute and might help you imagine how diesel punk scifi tanks might roll. Dust:Tactics wargame. Different topic: In the Pacific, would you go full Godzilla/Mothra or kami for supernatural baddies? I would think the former a better fit but man, you would get mad props if you could make Shinto supernatural critters work in a diesel punk RPG.
|
|
|
Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 14, 2018 1:59:18 GMT -5
Thanks bravewolf for the list of resources to check out.
|
|
|
Post by bravewolf on Jul 14, 2018 1:59:21 GMT -5
Yeah, mormonyoyoman , I always wished that the Biblical writers had been inspired to write more about the world of Genesis 10, but now we get to imagine it Thanks for the encouragement - I will keep y'all posted. You forgot how to crawl?? On the real, I am one time zone west of you, I believe, downhill from Donner's Family Take-Out. They (scribes of Genesis, et al) did write more - lots more. It's amazing (There's that word again.) that as much survived as it has, considering hand-copying, translations of translations of translations, warfare, the environment of the Middle East, Alexandria's destruction, repression of the writings, and hand-scribing from memory when the high priests who were to commit the Torah to memory were put to death so often. Then filtering out or in the various apocrypha (Real or historical fiction/choose one) and THEN most of Europe making it a capital crime to read or translate them into then-modern language. Just following that thread would make a generational epic campaign that would drive any sane gamesmaster - - Wait. ARE there any sane gamesmasters? You've opened a big honking can of worms which may need to be given a separate thread. As it gels into a game or develops into a setting, what would you say to having a separate sub-forum for it? All great points, Mr. M! Sane referees? Bah! ;-) I am down for a subforum, sure!
|
|
|
Post by mormonyoyoman on Jul 14, 2018 9:56:22 GMT -5
PS: You yam down by Tahoe, where Louis Falanga used to shoot all those magician videos?
|
|
|
Post by bravewolf on Jul 14, 2018 12:35:16 GMT -5
PS: You yam down by Tahoe, where Louis Falanga used to shoot all those magician videos? Down by Sacramento, actually. Almost in the birthplace of Arduin, but not quite!
|
|
|
Post by mormonyoyoman on Jul 14, 2018 14:40:28 GMT -5
PS: You yam down by Tahoe, where Louis Falanga used to shoot all those magician videos? Down by Sacramento, actually. Almost in the birthplace of Arduin, but not quite! If you see a Dr Evan Buxbaum, that's my oldest daughter's husband.
|
|
|
Post by bravewolf on Jul 15, 2018 2:32:43 GMT -5
I am not familiar with that fella but will keep an eye out - he is a doctor, after all!
|
|