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Post by magremore on Oct 18, 2017 6:41:47 GMT -5
Alignment languages? (Apologies if this is covered elsewhere.)
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Post by makofan on Oct 18, 2017 9:33:26 GMT -5
BTW, I hate hate hate the beginning of campaigns where we have to roleplay getting together. The GM should just say for the first adventure, "you've met in a pub, are debating among these three options, now go"
But I think I am in a minority with this view
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Post by Admin Pete on Oct 18, 2017 9:41:31 GMT -5
Alignment languages? (Apologies if this is covered elsewhere.) I don't really use alignment languages, although for instance an evil high priest and company will not be speaking common. Someone switches from Lawful to Neutral, they don't automatically forget one language and learn another, that doesn't work for me so I don't use it. I generally assume that there is a common language for the dominant culture in a country or region and then other languages may be known.
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Post by ffilz on Oct 18, 2017 10:44:46 GMT -5
BTW, I hate hate hate the beginning of campaigns where we have to roleplay getting together. The GM should just say for the first adventure, "you've met in a pub, are debating among these three options, now go" But I think I am in a minority with this view You're not alone... Between the extreme dithering that getting the party together tends to look like, and my not being much of a dialogue person, it makes me just sort of sit back and hope things get rolling... Frank
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Post by Admin Pete on Oct 18, 2017 12:36:51 GMT -5
BTW, I hate hate hate the beginning of campaigns where we have to roleplay getting together. The GM should just say for the first adventure, "you've met in a pub, are debating among these three options, now go" But I think I am in a minority with this view I go with either but I prefer starting with everyone knowing each other and then quickly deciding on which option to pursue or even come up with a new option. If you are going to roleplay it out, it obviously can go pretty quickly at the table, but it does take a lot of time online. So I am in your minority, but I try to be flexible.
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Post by Admin Pete on Oct 18, 2017 12:39:46 GMT -5
BTW, I hate hate hate the beginning of campaigns where we have to roleplay getting together. The GM should just say for the first adventure, "you've met in a pub, are debating among these three options, now go" But I think I am in a minority with this view You're not alone... Between the extreme dithering that getting the party together tends to look like, and my not being much of a dialogue person, it makes me just sort of sit back and hope things get rolling... Frank The only thing I can advise is be aggressive in moving the group to a decision. When I play I nearly always support the first good idea I hear and try to move us towards that. In my original group when I reffed I had a couple of leaders that everyone generally agreed with 95% of the time so it made things move quickly. Bitd, I cannot recall ever having the group not know each other.
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Post by magremore on Oct 18, 2017 16:52:18 GMT -5
BTW, I hate hate hate the beginning of campaigns where we have to roleplay getting together. The GM should just say for the first adventure, "you've met in a pub, are debating among these three options, now go" But I think I am in a minority with this view You're not alone... Between the extreme dithering that getting the party together tends to look like, and my not being much of a dialogue person, it makes me just sort of sit back and hope things get rolling... Frank Ditto. Or double ditto as the case may be.
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Oct 18, 2017 19:04:12 GMT -5
BTW, I hate hate hate the beginning of campaigns where we have to roleplay getting together. The GM should just say for the first adventure, "you've met in a pub, are debating among these three options, now go" But I think I am in a minority with this view Heck, I'm in a minority without any view. ("Let's put a window in this place!")
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Post by Richard on Oct 19, 2017 0:00:10 GMT -5
I don't really use alignment languages, although for instance an evil high priest and company will not be speaking common." Is there an equivalent of Medieval Church Latin used by the Church of the One God? If so, does Sora know how to read it, if not speak it?
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Post by Richard on Oct 19, 2017 0:35:13 GMT -5
As I posted somewhere here, the worst thing I've experienced (depressingly often) in PbP is playing through creating the party and then having the game die before anything else ever happens. At least in our case here, nobody has [as yet . . .] marched a Grade A Prime A**hole into the initial scene and started in to ticking EVERYONE off.
In my own games, I tend to start the party out as a group in which all (or at least the majority) of the characters have known each other for some time. But this is not to say that they already know *everything* about each other. Discovering previously unknown connections and *character* (as opposed to player) secrets is all part of the fun. The model I usually aim at is something like how Joss Whedon *wanted* the Serenity crew (from the TV show Firefly) to be introduced: in the intended pilot episode, we see the Shepherd, the Doctor and the Crazy Prodigy joining the pre-existing crew. For the backstory of how the other six characters came together, we have to wait for the series of flashbacks by the Captain shown in the episode "Out Of Gas" (#8). One reason I like Savage Worlds is that it has a mechanic - the Interludes rule - which encourages the characters to sit around and actually game out telling tales to each other that can amount to just such flashbacks.
I'm currently waffling between starting my next FtF Small Smuggling Crew out as criminals who cooperated to steal their ship from a crime lord three [in-game] years back OR a group of disparate adventuring types dispatched on a deep-penetration secret mission in an officially-stolen ship [e.g. Rogue One].
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Oct 19, 2017 7:21:32 GMT -5
Perhaps a trade language, such as Greek in the first century A.D. or English in the latter half of the 20th? "Common" may have been an accurate term for Gygax and/or Arneson to use as a term, but it carries such boring connotations. "Commoners speak common and commonly. I, sir, am a knight!" as some schmuck once said.
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Post by Admin Pete on Oct 19, 2017 10:58:22 GMT -5
I don't really use alignment languages, although for instance an evil high priest and company will not be speaking common. Someone switches from Lawful to Neutral, they don't automatically forget one language and learn another, that doesn't work for me so I don't use it. I generally assume that there is a common language for the dominant culture in a country or region and then other languages may be known. Is there an equivalent of Medieval Church Latin used by the Church of the One God? If so, does Sora know how to read it, if not speak it? Perhaps a trade language, such as Greek in the first century A.D. or English in the latter half of the 20th? "Common" may have been an accurate term for Gygax and/or Arneson to use as a term, but it carries such boring connotations. "Commoners speak common and commonly. I, sir, am a knight!" as some schmuck once said. Ok, a more complete and detailed answer. You are all native to the Kingdom of Ouertania and you all speak Ouertanian. Those who are clerics of the One God read/speak the language of the ancient Ouertanian ancestors which is considerably different from the current language. Clerics of other orders may or may not speak/read a similar root language. Everyone speaks their cultural language, although for most humans that will be Ouertanian. Most people speak "common" aka the "trade language" aka "Garo". Depending on the Intelligence they may speak more languages or not and may have a limited vocabulary or not.
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Post by Admin Pete on Oct 19, 2017 11:44:27 GMT -5
Question for hengest , magremore , mormonyoyoman , ffilz , Warrior Twin One , Warrior Twin Two, makofan & Richard, do you all want to use a caller once you get on the road? If so, you may want to post your agreement here as to who that will be and what kind of leeway you are investing in the caller. In melee you should each post what actions you take or the standard actions you will take so that I can run 1d? melee rounds of action before consulting you again for new actions. I will try to be judicious about where those pauses are so that things move but don't make you spectators. Also if you have standard actions in some situations, you should post them here so the ref and the caller will know what they are. Your caller should have the freedom to help keep the game moving. As I noted earlier I will try to be on here a minimum of three (3) to four (4) times a week (or more if time permits) I would like as many of you as can do that to do that. If you can only be on once or twice a week that is OK as long as the other players can keep things moving. So if you read without logging in, in the interest of time and cannot login for four or five days at a time, please just go with the flow. But if you can either post some OOC comments in red in the thread about the direction you would like to take or pursue or pm the caller with comments (please copy your ref, unless it is a plan to outsmart the monsters it is fine for all of you to talk by pm and try to do that.) Try to be available for the big decisions or at least comment. As this proceeds I will try get better at giving you a heads up, about decisions time coming up so you can post your opinion or post that you will go with the group. The less you are able to login and post, the more I encourage you to go with the group; however, if you let the group know that a direction will not work, and you pursue something else as a result, let me know and I will start a new thread to take care of that. Please post questions and suggestions. Currently my take is that you are trying to wrap up who is in the party and decide on your course(s) of action and get on the road. Make sure all of your supplies are noted in the Character Creation threads and then I will try to finalize those things as you hit the road.
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Post by ffilz on Oct 19, 2017 15:00:02 GMT -5
Sounds good, if makofan is amenable, I think he would make a good caller. I'm still feeling my way in this campaign so I know I would not make a good caller. Frank
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Oct 19, 2017 15:26:28 GMT -5
As our Victim-in-Chief, I feel that you should decide this. Shiyazthar is a mouthy but amenable follower. Can't be sure about the Lady yet. She doesn't know her own mind yet and is crazy superstitious. I think she is hiding something from me.
Who, me paranoid?
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Post by Richard on Oct 20, 2017 0:07:28 GMT -5
You are all native to the Kingdom of Ouertania and you all speak Ouertanian. Check. I think . . . (see below) Those who are clerics of the One God read/speak the language of the ancient Ouertanian ancestors which is considerably different from the current language. Clerics of other orders may or may not speak/read a similar root language. So . . . since Sora is a fighter not a cleric, the answer to my question is "No." He knows rote responses to liturgical phrases but has no clue what these words actually mean. Correct? Everyone speaks their cultural language, although for most humans that will be Ouertanian. So is Sora bilingual in "Deveuilian" and Quertanian? Most people speak "common" aka the "trade language" aka "Garo". Depending on the Intelligence they may speak more languages or not and may have a limited vocabulary or not. So . . . trilingual? Deveuilian, Quertanian and Garo?
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Post by Richard on Oct 20, 2017 0:38:02 GMT -5
[D]o you all want to use a caller once you get on the road? A caller is fine with me. Since I don't really know anyone here, I have no preference as to who it is. what kind of leeway you are investing in the caller. As long as Sora conducts himself according to the tenets of chivalry (volunteers for the most dangerous position, protects innocents and non-combatants except when the greater good demands otherwise, scourges criminals and monsters, obeys Mother Church, regards his word as his bond, etc) and Josiah behaves as a stalwart man-at-arms (normally obeys Sora but is not himself all that chivalrous), I'll be okay with whatever the caller decides. In melee you should each post what actions you take or the standard actions you will take so that I can run 1d? melee rounds of action before consulting you again for new actions . . . if you have standard actions in some situations, you should post them here so the ref and the caller will know what they are. Your caller should have the freedom to help keep the game moving. When possible, Sora and Josiah prefer to use their bows [or other ranged weapons] on the most obvious threat - normally anybody or anything that seems to be a magic user - until the fight devolves into melee. Once blades are in use, the two will continue to concentrate their efforts on said obvious threat until it is vanquished. If this is not immediately possible (e.g. the M-U attempts to hide behind ranks of minions), then they will cooperate to carve a path through any obstacles in order to exercise said preference. Any opponents who choose to run away will be allowed to depart in peace, so long as Sora has *not* identified them as EVIL. EVIL opponents are chased down and dispatched with extreme prejudice, whenever possible. As I noted earlier I will try to be on here a minimum of three (3) to four (4) times a week (or more if time permits) I would like as many of you as can do that to do that. I will try my best to do that, work/sleep schedule permitting. So if you read without logging in, in the interest of time and cannot login for four or five days at a time, please just go with the flow. But if you can either post some OOC comments in red in the thread about the direction you would like to take or pursue or pm the caller with comments (please copy your ref, unless it is a plan to outsmart the monsters it is fine for all of you to talk by pm and try to do that.) Check. Try to be available for the big decisions or at least comment. As this proceeds I will try get better at giving you a heads up, about decisions time coming up so you can post your opinion or post that you will go with the group. The less you are able to login and post, the more I encourage you to go with the group; however, if you let the group know that a direction will not work, and you pursue something else as a result, let me know and I will start a new thread to take care of that. Check. Currently my take is that you are trying to wrap up who is in the party and decide on your course(s) of action and get on the road. Check. NOTE: Sora won't be thrilled about inviting unknown half-orcs to accompany the party. He's had too many bad experiences with members of that race [e.g. only 5% are Lawful!]. The only half-orc Sora would trust was one vouched for by someone he already trusted. Make sure all of your supplies are noted in the Character Creation threads and then I will try to finalize those things as you hit the road. That reminds me . . . I really need to write up both my characters!
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Oct 20, 2017 1:55:34 GMT -5
Shiyazthar would pick up a bow and some superior (superior to his homemade ones) arrows.
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Oct 20, 2017 1:57:27 GMT -5
Shiyazthar would pick up a bow and some superior (superior to his homemade ones) arrows. Argh. That was supposed to be in the form of a question. Is there a good fletcher around here? (NOT Marlon Brando or Clark Gable.)
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Post by magremore on Oct 20, 2017 5:03:40 GMT -5
I’m fine with a caller. Fine with going with the flow.
Wy right now has Drek keeping out of sight, cleaning himself up a bit. Once out of town, Drek will be used primarily as a body guard. Wy won’t be sending Drek into danger if he can help it, will keep him close by whenever possible/reasonable. Is there a complete list of languages to choose from? And can you clarify: is Garo/common its own language or a dialect of Ouertanian?
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Post by Admin Pete on Oct 20, 2017 7:07:58 GMT -5
]So . . . since Sora is a fighter not a cleric, the answer to my question is "No." He knows rote responses to liturgical phrases but has no clue what these words actually mean. Correct? So is Sora bilingual in "Deveuilian" and Quertanian? So . . . trilingual? Deveuilian, Quertanian and Garo? Yes, on all counts. Most except the very dimmest are bilingual or trilingual. All of the alien races have been here for at least a few centuries and some much longer.
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Post by Admin Pete on Oct 20, 2017 7:10:41 GMT -5
I’m fine with a caller. Fine with going with the flow. Wy right now has Drek keeping out of sight, cleaning himself up a bit. Once out of town, Drek will be used primarily as a body guard. Wy won’t be sending Drek into danger if he can help it, will keep him close by whenever possible/reasonable. Is there a complete list of languages to choose from? And can you clarify: is Garo/common its own language or a dialect of Ouertanian? I will work up a list. Garo is its own language borrowing from over 30 different languages and covers considerable territory.
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Post by makofan on Oct 20, 2017 10:14:16 GMT -5
I must decline to be the caller. Six months ago I had a mental breakdown, and withdrew from all online gaming (among other things). The doctor has ordered me to lower my stress or else. This is my first tentative re-entry to playing, and I don't want to map, organize the party, or lead. Normally I end up doing these tasks, but I have resolved not to do that here
I apologize in advance
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Oct 20, 2017 11:45:53 GMT -5
No apologies needed. It is a mark of confidence in you that probably prompted the nomination. And I dislike it when doctors order me too, but they all outrank me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 14:51:26 GMT -5
I must decline to be the caller. I applaud your bravery and wish you a continued and speedy recovery.
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Post by ffilz on Oct 20, 2017 15:10:32 GMT -5
I must decline to be the caller. Six months ago I had a mental breakdown, and withdrew from all online gaming (among other things). The doctor has ordered me to lower my stress or else. This is my first tentative re-entry to playing, and I don't want to map, organize the party, or lead. Normally I end up doing these tasks, but I have resolved not to do that here I apologize in advance No apology necessary. I'm glad you're finding your way back while managing your stress. I'd be happy to try taking a stab at mapping if we enter a traditional dungeon. Frank
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Post by Admin Pete on Oct 20, 2017 16:28:09 GMT -5
I must decline to be the caller. Six months ago I had a mental breakdown, and withdrew from all online gaming (among other things). The doctor has ordered me to lower my stress or else. This is my first tentative re-entry to playing, and I don't want to map, organize the party, or lead. Normally I end up doing these tasks, but I have resolved not to do that here I apologize in advance Thank, no apology needed for taking care of yourself and I hope you are doing well.
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Post by ffilz on Oct 20, 2017 17:29:45 GMT -5
And I'm sorry, I'm having trouble keeping up with everything...
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Post by Admin Pete on Oct 20, 2017 18:29:45 GMT -5
And I'm sorry, I'm having trouble keeping up with everything... I am gaining a great appreciation for those of you who are experienced pbp refs. I could see running two games if I had more time, but I would have to be retired to run more than two. Yeah I wish there was some way to keep it straight. I am trying to summarize where I think we are at now and then and let people point it out if I am not accurate enough, maybe I should put those summary posts in bold or italics to make them stand out more. Or remember to put them in red. As a complete rookie I am trying to make it as much like face to face as possible and I am trying to encourage things to move. I can move fast or roleplay but when you are not face to face it is hard to do both at the same time. People can pm me with suggestions (hopefully that does not open a can of worms ) and I will at least consider them as I learn how to do this. When I get online I try to read every thing since the last time I posted.
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Oct 20, 2017 22:49:59 GMT -5
Monday or Tuesday, I'll try to build a relational database to track characters locations, and events with circles and arrows in red and a paragraph on the back.
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