Does the new timeline downplay Arneson's contributions? Aug 11, 2019 22:30:07 GMT -5
Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Aug 11, 2019 22:30:07 GMT -5
A question here. Please bear with me as try to frame this question correctly.
Well before the "troubles," the first person to connect Dave's original FRP game system to Chainmail in print was Gary, and this, of course, happening only after publication of OD&D. Was the OD&D origin story about the use of Chainmail by Dave put forth by Gary an attempt to strengthen the connection between OD&D and Chainmail to help ease miniature Chainmail players to D&D by way of said origin story? If so, did this usage then morph into general marketing and narrative?
Also, curios. Besides bridging over earlier Chainmail players to D&D, was there also a hope to cross-sell Chainmail copies to new players?
Many thanks in advance.
Dave Arneson started a game and campaign he called Blackmoor. This went on for about one and a half to two years during which many people in the Twin Cities participated and even spun things off of it. This was all preceded by many things including the Braunsteins of David Wesely of which Arneson had a major impact on as a player and when Wesely went into the military, Arneson continued to run.
When Arneson started Blackmoor it had many influences and things were used from many, many sources. Reportedly the Chainmail combat system was used briefly, but was unsatisfactory and was replaced with other things by Arneson. At the end of this first Twin Cities phase Arneson and some others traveled to Lake Geneva to show and run Blackmoor for Gygax, Kuntz and a few others. They immediately took to it and the Greyhawk campaign was soon begun and Arneson provided notes to Gygax. Much by Arneson was not written down and his notes were sometimes hard to completely comprehend and many phone calls and letters between them ensued as things progressed and things moved from developing the Greyhawk campaign to writing OD&D. As Gygax did the actual writing, he used Arneson's ideas and system, but introduced his own mechanics in place of Arneson's mechanics. Some elements of Chainmail were added to OD&D that were not present in Blackmoor. By all accounts the Chainmail combat system was not used in OD&D, but the "alternate system" which was really "the" system. All of the Chainmail references by name in OD&D were for the sole purpose of selling copies of Chainmail way more than any other reason as I understand it. AFAIK the early players did use Chainmail for mass combat, which is what its purpose was.
That I believe is the gist of it. Rob Kuntz has a book in progress that will detail more accurately than I can most of what I have covered here. You will want to reference also the book DATG noted in the post before this one.
Also you will want to look through Kalibruhn - The World of Robert J Kuntz on this forum which is currently only readable since Rob is focusing on making a living and finishing products for the foreseeable future. I recently read that he is raising money to move back to the USA from Corsica, France.