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Post by mao on Sept 12, 2019 15:21:23 GMT -5
Thanx, I seem to be able to come up w a fair bunch of these, but more on less from now they prob will get a little obscure Maybe take a couple and flesh out how it would work as something a core class gets as part of advancement. New thread of course for each one.  Im def gonna do this in some form |
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Sept 12, 2019 15:27:16 GMT -5
If you bought them at drivethru they should still be in your library with drive thru and you can just download them again. Yea, it didnt work that way  Bummer, that is pretty wrong. |
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Post by raikenclw on Sept 13, 2019 1:06:07 GMT -5
Yea, it didnt work that way Bummer, that is pretty wrong. If you bought them on DriveThruRPG but can't download them again, contact the site folk. They've been helpful to me, about similar issues in the past. |
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Post by mao on Sept 21, 2019 10:59:25 GMT -5
Satyr Warrior
fighter sub class
no armor or shields
Natural AC 5
+33% speed
No matter what type of weapons are needed to hit a given foe(EXample silver), the Satyr hits it with any attack(normal to hit roll)
3/ day Satyr may make a hoof attack for d6 damage in addition to its normal melee attack
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Post by mao on Sept 27, 2019 6:37:41 GMT -5
Shaman
cleric subclass
max armour= hide(ac6)
No clerical magic items
At odd levels gain Speak w Animals
at even levels gain speak w dead
cure spells cast on barbarians, clerics nd other Shamans are at max
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Post by mao on Oct 1, 2019 9:38:07 GMT -5
(inspired by link) Deacon Cleric subclass No turning ability This character has extraordinarily powers under canon law. All non bishop clerics and paladins of the same faith must follow their orders (Dms discretion on exact parameters).rank is determined by level. |
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Post by ripx187 on Oct 2, 2019 12:06:50 GMT -5
Creature Hunter: All Scrolls, turn undead: Seeks to identify and destroy paranormal creatures. Studies arcane texts of esoteric nature, practical folklore, and possesses the ability to create wards and weapons specific for the target which they are hunting. The casting of wizard spells is restricted to ritual magic, thus all casting times are doubled and they must use a scroll that has a chance to be destroyed during the spell. Able to cast cleric spells with a chance of failure. The Creature Hunter gains a +2 to hit and damage when fighting a monster that he has researched. Prime Requisite is INT.
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Post by raikenclw on Oct 2, 2019 22:37:05 GMT -5
Creature Hunter: All Scrolls, turn undead: Seeks to identify and destroy paranormal creatures. Studies arcane texts of esoteric nature, practical folklore, and possesses the ability to create wards and weapons specific for the target which they are hunting. The casting of wizard spells is restricted to ritual magic, thus all casting times are doubled and they must use a scroll that has a chance to be destroyed during the spell. Able to cast cleric spells with a chance of failure. The Creature Hunter gains a +2 to hit and damage when fighting a monster that he has researched. Prime Requisite is INT. Sam and Dean Winchester.  |
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Post by mao on Oct 9, 2019 11:27:15 GMT -5
Watchman
fighter subclass
No plate
Move silently
Low light vision
Immune to senses effect magic
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Post by shimrod on Oct 10, 2019 10:23:15 GMT -5
These are fun; I really like your minimalist takes. OD&D is so open for this kind of stuff. Mao, have you seen the zine Black Pudding, by J.V. West? He puts a ton of new classes in it, and they're full of wild and fun ideas. Kind of like yours but just a little more fleshed-out. His cartoony (kind of Vaughn Bode-influenced, like Cheech Wizard) art style and illustrations also really sell the concepts. I'd love to play in a lighthearted game run based on his stuff sometime. Might run it myself, honestly. doomslakers.blogspot.com/www.drivethrurpg.com/product/246471/Black-Pudding-Heavy-Helping-Vol-OneThanx, its always nice to be apprecited. I have enough I ideas for a longlong time but Ill checkit out, agin thanx |
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Post by mao on Oct 10, 2019 11:13:05 GMT -5
These are fun; I really like your minimalist takes. OD&D is so open for this kind of stuff. Mao, have you seen the zine Black Pudding, by J.V. West? He puts a ton of new classes in it, and they're full of wild and fun ideas. Kind of like yours but just a little more fleshed-out. His cartoony (kind of Vaughn Bode-influenced, like Cheech Wizard) art style and illustrations also really sell the concepts. I'd love to play in a lighthearted game run based on his stuff sometime. Might run it myself, honestly. doomslakers.blogspot.com/www.drivethrurpg.com/product/246471/Black-Pudding-Heavy-Helping-Vol-OneThanx, its always nice to be apprecited. I have enough I ideas for a longlong time but Ill checkit out, agin thanx I have abused my mod power!!!! oh The Shame!!! LOL I hit edit on your post, thats hystericle |
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Post by shimrod on Oct 10, 2019 11:25:22 GMT -5
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Post by mao on Oct 13, 2019 13:47:14 GMT -5
Explorer
fighter sub class
No 2 handed weapons , shields or armor greater than ring-mail ac7(13)
Abilities
Evaluate Item > can detect magic or not(just yes or no), value within 15% up or down
Linguistics> knows 15 languages, 25% to understand others
Track (outdoor,as ranger ) 55%
Subtracts 1 damage from in coming attacks
(Inspired by 1st ed WHRPG)
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Post by ampleframework on Apr 25, 2020 18:44:38 GMT -5
I've got two half-formed ideas that have been floating around in my head for a while. The more fully formed idea is to add a class with each of the six Ability Scores as its Prime Requisite (Strength, Intelligence and Wisdom are taken already.) but in the context of a strictly Swords & Sorcery setting. One idea in particular I'm exploring is a Yogi class for Dex in place of the Thief to represent a sort of Eastern flavored alternative to the Cleric that's distinct from the Kung Fu style Monk more common in these games.
My second idea is a bit silly and half-formed but it came to me while playing cards. What if the classes were based on the Face Cards of a standard playing card deck? What kind of OD&D game would it be if you picked the Jack, Queen, King, Ace or Joker? Intriguing idea but it's just the seed of an idea really. I'd have to flesh out the concept further some rainy day when inspired to do so.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 25, 2020 23:33:22 GMT -5
I've got two half-formed ideas that have been floating around in my head for a while. The more fully formed idea is to add a class with each of the six Ability Scores as its Prime Requisite (Strength, Intelligence and Wisdom are taken already.) but in the context of a strictly Swords & Sorcery setting. One idea in particular I'm exploring is a Yogi class for Dex in place of the Thief to represent a sort of Eastern flavored alternative to the Cleric that's distinct from the Kung Fu style Monk more common in these games. My second idea is a bit silly and half-formed but it came to me while playing cards. What if the classes were based on the Face Cards of a standard playing card deck? What kind of OD&D game would it be if you picked the Jack, Queen, King, Ace or Joker? Intriguing idea but it's just the seed of an idea really. I'd have to flesh out the concept further some rainy day when inspired to do so. I like it, the OD&D Paladin does have Charisma as the Prime Requisite, in OD&D you can be a successful Paladin without being really high strength, even after you introduce all the Greyhawk Strength things. But I could see something other than a Paladin for Charisma. Although there are more requirements than just one, the OD&D Ranger in a way, kinda sorta, has Constitution as the Prime Requisite. Having a Yogi class could be fun too. What other classes are you thinking about? I am looking forward to seeing what you come up with in regard to the playing cards. |
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Post by ampleframework on Apr 29, 2020 10:13:49 GMT -5
I was actually thinking of a Thulsa Doom type character for the CON class. A serpent priest or snake handling fellow who handles dangerous magics and creatures and derives power from pain. Sort of an alternative Cleric, which is also what the Yogi is to be honest. It also fits the Swords & Sorcery genre idea. Charisma would also suit such a class, though, but in the vein of pulp barbarian fiction some Red Sonja style swashbuckler would be a good stand in for the more generic Bard. Perhaps a sword dancer or other street performer who dazzles and misdirects in combat, and who is particularly good at charming people into their service, gaining additional boosts in Morale and Reaction situations.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 29, 2020 11:03:41 GMT -5
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Post by ampleframework on Apr 29, 2020 13:53:28 GMT -5
She's a great character. Correct me if I'm wrong but she's never appeared on the big screen, has she? She may be in some animated things but never in any of the big blockbuster Conan movies to my knowledge. What a shame that is. She's a great counterpart to Conan.
But, yes, the Swashbuckler as an alternate melee type is fascinating to me on a conceptual level. It makes you wonder how those mechanics could work, basing sleights of hand and flourishes on Charisma. I've seen rules that make these into Dexterity things but on a fundamental level I think they're more mental. They're a type of stage magic, and that's 100% Charisma. You can add elements of Illusionist and Rogue in there. Like a Zorro type. It also suits one of the basic Man type wilderness encounters, so it's established in the implied OD&D setting to exist.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 29, 2020 19:32:18 GMT -5
She's a great character. Correct me if I'm wrong but she's never appeared on the big screen, has she? She may be in some animated things but never in any of the big blockbuster Conan movies to my knowledge. What a shame that is. She's a great counterpart to Conan. But, yes, the Swashbuckler as an alternate melee type is fascinating to me on a conceptual level. It makes you wonder how those mechanics could work, basing sleights of hand and flourishes on Charisma. I've seen rules that make these into Dexterity things but on a fundamental level I think they're more mental. They're a type of stage magic, and that's 100% Charisma. You can add elements of Illusionist and Rogue in there. Like a Zorro type. It also suits one of the basic Man type wilderness encounters, so it's established in the implied OD&D setting to exist. There was a really bad 1985 Red Sonja movie with Brigitte Nielsen in the staring role. Bad casting, just like IMO Arnold Schwarzenegger was bad casting for Conan. IMO there has not yet been a good Conan movie. Quite frankly I would have been happier with Wilt Chamberlain playing Conan, he would have been better than Arnold. There is supposed to be another Red Sonja movie, but what little has been out there so far is promising another train wreck. |
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Post by mao on Apr 30, 2020 5:53:39 GMT -5
She's a great character. Correct me if I'm wrong but she's never appeared on the big screen, has she? She may be in some animated things but never in any of the big blockbuster Conan movies to my knowledge. What a shame that is. She's a great counterpart to Conan. But, yes, the Swashbuckler as an alternate melee type is fascinating to me on a conceptual level. It makes you wonder how those mechanics could work, basing sleights of hand and flourishes on Charisma. I've seen rules that make these into Dexterity things but on a fundamental level I think they're more mental. They're a type of stage magic, and that's 100% Charisma. You can add elements of Illusionist and Rogue in there. Like a Zorro type. It also suits one of the basic Man type wilderness encounters, so it's established in the implied OD&D setting to exist. There was a really bad 1985 Red Sonja movie with Brigitte Nielsen in the staring role. Bad casting, just like IMO Arnold Schwarzenegger was bad casting for Conan. IMO there has not yet been a good Conan movie. Quite frankly I would have been happier with Wilt Chamberlain playing Conan, he would have been better than Arnold. There is supposed to be another Red Sonja movie, but what little has been out there so far is promising another train wreck. Red Sonja WAS SO BAD!!!! |
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Post by mao on Apr 30, 2020 7:03:57 GMT -5
I was actually thinking of a Thulsa Doom type character for the CON class. A serpent priest or snake handling fellow who handles dangerous magics and creatures and derives power from pain. Sort of an alternative Cleric, which is also what the Yogi is to be honest. It also fits the Swords & Sorcery genre idea. Charisma would also suit such a class, though, but in the vein of pulp barbarian fiction some Red Sonja style swashbuckler would be a good stand in for the more generic Bard. Perhaps a sword dancer or other street performer who dazzles and misdirects in combat, and who is particularly good at charming people into their service, gaining additional boosts in Morale and Reaction situations. As to the cleric in Crypts and Things the mages get the clerical spell, def more Conan, in fact the whole game is centered around Howard and Lovecraft . Def worth a read if you plan on getting into Howard |
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Post by ampleframework on Apr 30, 2020 11:04:05 GMT -5
I've heard of Crypts and Things but to be honest I own too many rules sets already. More than I'll ever use for anything. These days I'm taking the route of starting with OD&D and adding my own stuff, the way it was always intended. Unless the stuff I borrow is free and accessible. Let me know if there's a free version of that. Sometimes with these OSR titles there's random freebie days or an art free pdf.
Sounds like I didn't miss anything much with Red Sonja. I actually enjoyed the old Conan movies, mostly because Conan was a blank slate to me. I didn't read the stories until later, and in hindsight it's really not a good translation of that character as written, but I think the movies are okay. They suffer from the same issue the Super Mario Bros. movie suffers from, for me. The story and setting is good but it's not a good representation of the source material. If you called it something else, like Grognard the Barbarian or some such, it's a better movie. This isn't Howard's Conan but it's a decent sword and sorcery flick.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 30, 2020 16:34:33 GMT -5
I was actually thinking of a Thulsa Doom type character for the CON class. A serpent priest or snake handling fellow who handles dangerous magics and creatures and derives power from pain. Sort of an alternative Cleric, which is also what the Yogi is to be honest. It also fits the Swords & Sorcery genre idea. Charisma would also suit such a class, though, but in the vein of pulp barbarian fiction some Red Sonja style swashbuckler would be a good stand in for the more generic Bard. Perhaps a sword dancer or other street performer who dazzles and misdirects in combat, and who is particularly good at charming people into their service, gaining additional boosts in Morale and Reaction situations. As to the cleric in Crypts and Things the mages get the clerical spell, def more Conan, in fact the whole game is centered around Howard and Lovecraft . Def worth a read if you plan on getting into Howard I have not seen Crypts and Things either. |
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Apr 30, 2020 16:38:17 GMT -5
I've heard of Crypts and Things but to be honest I own too many rules sets already. More than I'll ever use for anything. These days I'm taking the route of starting with OD&D and adding my own stuff, the way it was always intended. Unless the stuff I borrow is free and accessible. Let me know if there's a free version of that. Sometimes with these OSR titles there's random freebie days or an art free pdf. Sounds like I didn't miss anything much with Red Sonja. I actually enjoyed the old Conan movies, mostly because Conan was a blank slate to me. I didn't read the stories until later, and in hindsight it's really not a good translation of that character as written, but I think the movies are okay. They suffer from the same issue the Super Mario Bros. movie suffers from, for me. The story and setting is good but it's not a good representation of the source material. If you called it something else, like Grognard the Barbarian or some such, it's a better movie. This isn't Howard's Conan but it's a decent sword and sorcery flick. I enjoyed the Conan movies a lot, but I had read all of the REH stuff already, so for me it was just not the real Conan. Arnold did not have the right physique, but Wilt did have the right physique (too tall for the part, but physically he looked like I envision Conan, plus in real life he had Conan strength). And Arnold did not have naturally jet black hair |
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Post by ampleframework on May 1, 2020 9:28:45 GMT -5
Right. Good movie, even good character, I'd say, but not Conan. Conan has a very specific physique and face you don't see in a lot of big Hollywood actors, even bodybuilders like Arnold. Conan in the books is actually a polyglot and can read magic runes, etc. and he's a really good thief for his size. He can slink like a cat and climb like one, too. I think that's why he appears as a multi-class character in his official AD&D stat blocks later. He's not a Barbarian in AD&D terms nor exactly a pure Fighter or Thief either, so they did the clever thing and made him Multi.
Which brings us back to OD&D and OD&D classes. Greyhawk introduced the idea of Multi-classing, especially with its Half-Elf, and this was like a revision and expansion of what the pure Elf can do in Men & Magic, which is to exist with one foot in the world of swords and the other in the world of sorcery. One of my campaigns, or really more of a holiday one-shot for Whitebox that I did, took this concept but I called the adventurers Knights Templar and gave them abilities of the three core classes (Magic-User, Fighting-Man and Cleric) along with allowing each character to specialize in one non-combat skill. The idea was they were hunting an evil cult in possession of the Holy Grail and they had all these abilities because they were highly-trained commandoes. The downside is that such a character would take a huge amount of xp to level up. There's also more book keeping on the part of the player, naturally, the more abilities a character has. It was a fun session, though. This was for Halloween of 2017 if I recall. The climactic fight was against the forces of Morgana and the Faerie Realm who wanted the Grail for their own nefarious purposes. All of the Knights died honorably in this battle but one of their hirelings - a Caveman of all things - lived to tell the tale, and he adopted the faith of the Knights and became sort of an interesting legacy character in my world. A pious Clerical Caveman.
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Post by mao on May 2, 2020 3:15:52 GMT -5
The White Dwarf mag had an awesome barbarian clas that combined in a bunch of thief skills. White Dwarf 6 or so
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on May 3, 2020 0:39:55 GMT -5
The White Dwarf mag had an awesome barbarian clas that combined in a bunch of thief skills. White Dwarf 6 or so I will have to look for that. |
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on May 3, 2020 0:51:44 GMT -5
It was in White Dwarf #4 and it appeared in The Best of White Dwarf Volume 1.
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Post by mao on May 3, 2020 4:25:44 GMT -5
The White Dwarf mag had an awesome barbarian clas that combined in a bunch of thief skills. White Dwarf 6 or so I will have to look for that. We used it a lot in the early days through to the early 2000's, one of my all time fav's. Loved the first attack ferocity ability(double damage on first round of combat) |
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Post by mao on May 3, 2020 6:26:50 GMT -5
It was in White Dwarf #4 and it appeared in The Best of White Dwarf Volume 1. This came out on the cusp of 1st ed but was written for 0 Ed. The reprint skipped over giving the barbarian d8 hd, don't use this without that rule |
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