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Post by Harry Wolf on Aug 28, 2018 9:39:44 GMT -5
The idea for this post stems from this exchange up in the thread Board Status - Year 004 with this post. Here is the exchange of comments which explain why this is being posted. I didn't attend college, so you have me there.  Among the four sampled boards including ours we are in fourth place by a small amount. Moving into third is very doable, and even moving in to second I expect to happen over the next year. Matching the board in first place by this one criteria is a matter of longevity, growth in membership, interesting topics and growth in the core of very active posters in no particular order. The analytics available will not really let me break it down further than that. It is my opinion that interesting topics is the key to the other three. Given that we have a fraction of the membership of the other three boards, I am very pleased with where we are at and that we are as close as we are. The board that has double our number of posts per thread also has a membership 45 times larger than ours. The board we trail by a little over 1 post per thread has a membership of 3.5 times ours. That gap in posting can be easily closed if we continue to build on last month. So we're "fighting" rather far above our weight class, but still doing fairly well. To use the full range of current professional boxing weight classes we are a Light Flyweight (2nd Level) and we are being compared to two Bantamweights (5th Level) and a Lightweight (9th Level) out of a total of 17 Levels. theRPGSite is a Super Featherweight (8th Level) ENWorld is a Welterweight (11th Level) RPGNet is a Middleweight (13th Level) OK these are all estimates, I am intrigued now so I will have to work up the whole hierarchy and post it. I wanna see this, you should start a thread just for this. <slowly pounds forehead against nearest wall . . .> Oh, no. What have I started . . .  You asked for it, you got it!  |
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Post by Harry Wolf on Aug 28, 2018 9:49:07 GMT -5
I will update this sometime in the next couple of weeks, because some of these levels have multiple forums and I want to add that in, but it will be later. This is just the initial workup. Fill free to post about any forum that is not yet been posted about, as that will help me do updates to this list sooner
This includes forums that are currently not active.
Level Level Name Forum Name(s) Total Posts Range
1 Gnatweight Chirinebakal 0 - 5,000
Tékumel - The World of the Petal Throne Forums
OSRGaming Forums
Swords & Wizardry Forums (current iteration)
Beggar's Canyon Forums
Infinite Timelines Forums
Amber Diceless Role Playing
Citadel of Chaos Forums
Gringle's Pawnshop Forums
Frog God Games Forum
2 Light Flyweight The Wayfarers Inn 5001 - 10,000
Ye Olde Gaming Companye Community Forum
Old School Trek Forums
The official Metamorphosis Alpha Forums
Slayers Forum
Dave Arneson's Blackmoor: The MMRPG Forum
3 Flyweight Domesday Message Boards 10,001 - 20,000
Grognards Tavern
PurpleWorm.org Forums
Astonishing Swordsmen & Sorcerers of Hyperborea™ Forums
4 Super Flyweight Ruins of Murkhill 20,001 - 40,000
The Comeback Inn
Presposia
Critical Fumble.net Forums
SFRPG Forums
Pied Piper Publishing
Immersive Ink Forums
The RPG Haven Forums
Swords & Wizardry Forums (original iteration)
5 Light Bantamweight Canonfire! 40,001 - 70,000
Basic Fantasy Role-Playing
Goblinoid Games Forums
RPG PUB forum
The Forge (2nd iteration)
Alternate Timelines Forums
Vin's T&T TrollBridge
6 Bantamweight Strolen's Citadel 70,001 - 100,000
7 Super Bantamweight Views from the Edge 100,001 - 150,000
BRP Central Forums
8 Light Featherweight Original D&D Discussion 150,001 - 300,000
Knights & Knaves Alehouse
The Piazza
Harn Forum
Troll Lord Games Forum
Ronin Army: The Green Ronin Community
The Burning Wheel Forums
Official ICE Forums
The Forge (1st iteration)
Necromancer Games Forums (2nd Iteration)
9 Featherweight Fantasy Grounds Forums 300,001 - 500,000
Cartographers' Guild Forums
Necromancer Games Forums (1st Iteration)
10 Super Featherweight Candlekeep 500,001 - 750,000
Mongoose Publishing Forums
Citizens Of The Imperium Traveller Forums
RPGGEEK Forums
11 Lightweight Kenzer & Company Discussion Forums 750,001 - 1,000,000
12 Super Lightweight Dumpshock Forums 1,000,001 - 1,500,000
theRPGsite
13 Welterweight Dragonsfoot 1,500,001 - 2,000,000
Steve Jackson Games Forums
14 Super Welterweight 2,000,001 - 3,000,000
15 Middleweight Paizo Forums 3,000,001 - 5,000,000
16 Super Middleweight ENWorld 5,000,001 - 10,000,000
RPG Crossing Forums
17 Light Heavyweight 10,000,001 - 15,000,000
18 Cruiserweight RPGNet 15,000,001 - 20,000,000
19 Heavyweight 20,000,001 - 30,000,000
20 Super Heavyweight 30,000,001 - 50,000,000
21 Dreadnoughtweight 50,000,001 and up
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Post by Harry Wolf on Aug 28, 2018 10:10:49 GMT -5
Over the next few weeks I want to add forums into this Level Lists and I am thinking about starting a blog to, initially at least, review these forums. Go over things like why did some of the boards shutter their doors and why are some of them the size they are despite how many years they've been around. Things best discussed on a blog. So if I decide to do the reviews I will start the blog and posts an announcements here, but for now I am just doing the whole what level is your forum based on Total Posting. I might do other rankings based on membership or other criteria.
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Post by mao on Aug 28, 2018 10:16:30 GMT -5
Over the next few weeks I want to add forums into this Level Lists and I am thinking about starting a blog to, initially at least, review these forums. Go over things like why did some of the boards shutter their doors and why are some of them the size they are despite how many years they've been around. Things best discussed on a blog. So if I decide to do the reviews I will start the blog and posts an announcements here, but for now I am just doing the whole what level is your forum based on Total Posting. I might do other rankings based on membership or other criteria. You could dual post here and on a blog, I know I would read it if you posted here, I'm not really that into blogs and bloging. |
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Post by Harry Wolf on Aug 28, 2018 10:22:28 GMT -5
Over the next few weeks I want to add forums into this Level Lists and I am thinking about starting a blog to, initially at least, review these forums. Go over things like why did some of the boards shutter their doors and why are some of them the size they are despite how many years they've been around. Things best discussed on a blog. So if I decide to do the reviews I will start the blog and posts an announcements here, but for now I am just doing the whole what level is your forum based on Total Posting. I might do other rankings based on membership or other criteria. You could dual post here and on a blog, I know I would read it if you posted here, I'm not really that into blogs and bloging. When (and if) I start reviewing forums, that should be hosted solely on a blog. A forum would not want to host negative comments about other forums and a review to be an honest review would have to talk about the good and the bad, so that would really have to be done on a blog. |
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Post by mao on Aug 28, 2018 10:28:06 GMT -5
You could dual post here and on a blog, I know I would read it if you posted here, I'm not really that into blogs and bloging. When (and if) I start reviewing forums, that should be hosted solely on a blog. A forum would not want to host negative comments about other forums and a review to be an honest review would have to talk about the good and the bad, so that would really have to be done on a blog. <iframe width="23.1400000000001" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 23.1400000000001px; height: 5.159999999999997px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_7397044" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.1400000000001" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 23.14px; height: 5.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1097px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_61400938" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.1400000000001" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 23.14px; height: 5.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 196px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_34534220" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.1400000000001" height="5.159999999999997" style="position: absolute; width: 23.14px; height: 5.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1097px; top: 196px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_45921799" scrolling="no"></iframe> Fair enough. |
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Post by ripx187 on Aug 28, 2018 17:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by Harry Wolf on Aug 28, 2018 21:37:16 GMT -5
Thank you, glad you liked it. I took several different lists of weight class and expanded it to get 21 levels. I had a lot of fun doing it. I need to add another 8-10 forums too it. It kind of works out of us too. We will be 4 years old in January and we are 4th level and we will be 4th (slim possibility of 5th level) come January. |
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Post by Irish Warrior on Aug 29, 2018 17:27:35 GMT -5
This is awesome, by all means put it on a blog and add commentary on everyone of them.
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Post by El Borak on Aug 30, 2018 10:54:31 GMT -5
I love this, what a great way to put up a list of forums.
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Post by El Borak on Aug 30, 2018 10:58:20 GMT -5
Oooohhhh! I see what you did there. If this forum's posters are active enough we could level up by our anniversary date of January 11th, 2019 and move from 4th level to 5th level.
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Post by Keyone1234 on Sept 1, 2018 16:31:03 GMT -5
Harry Wolf, this is pure genius, I agree with ripx187, it is hilarious and it is genius, yes please blog about this.
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Post by Harry Wolf on Sept 3, 2018 18:00:47 GMT -5
OK, I just did a massive update, if you know of any other forums, please post the name, the link and stats if you know them. I will then update the list.
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Post by Harry Wolf on Sept 3, 2018 18:31:58 GMT -5
And another update, ok this is now everything I could find.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Sept 3, 2018 18:34:18 GMT -5
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Post by El Borak on Sept 4, 2018 17:17:26 GMT -5
That is the most informative thing I've seen about the RPG forums and you are right it would make a good starting point for a series of blog posts. |
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Post by Harry Wolf on Sept 12, 2018 10:46:59 GMT -5
Updated the ranking and added forums.
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Post by Harry Wolf on Sept 12, 2018 15:06:32 GMT -5
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Post by mao on Sept 12, 2018 16:13:39 GMT -5
Read the Tekumaletfsd review, informative and concise, love concise |
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Post by ripx187 on Sept 12, 2018 16:27:15 GMT -5
Smart concise and to the point. Love it!
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Post by Harry Wolf on Sept 12, 2018 19:49:37 GMT -5
Thank you both!
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Post by ripx187 on Sept 12, 2018 21:18:00 GMT -5
Harry Wolf, I tried to leave a comment, but it said that only staff can. My comment, regarding Petal Throne, is below
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Post by Harry Wolf on Sept 12, 2018 21:33:04 GMT -5
Harry Wolf , I tried to leave a comment, but it said that only staff can. My comment, regarding Petal Throne, is below Great comment! There are literally hundreds of starter threads they could make. Toss out a few every other day, and then participate themselves. I think the whole IP think is the other problem, they are protecting it so much they are killing it. Please try posting again, you should be able to if you are logged into Google. |
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Post by Harry Wolf on Sept 12, 2018 22:20:37 GMT -5
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Post by mao on Sept 13, 2018 6:29:44 GMT -5
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Post by gnombient on Sept 13, 2018 8:31:46 GMT -5
Harry Wolf , I tried to leave a comment, but it said that only staff can. My comment, regarding Petal Throne, is below Tekumel/EPT is an esoteric subniche of a subniche of a niche in our hobby. I can't imagine the dedicated fan community -- that is, those who have more than a passing curiosity in the setting -- can really spread its attention around too much at once. The Tekumel Discussion Group (Yahoo group), the descendant of the Blue Room mailing list, has more hardcore "scholarly" discussion of setting minutiae, at least as I remember it. I haven't been a list member since the early 2000s, but it still looks active and lively.
There are also flurries of activity on the ODD74 (Original D&D Discussion) board, which include more of what you mention in your quote -- EPT/Tekumel as it relates to the early development and play of OD&D.
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Post by El Borak on Sept 13, 2018 9:13:41 GMT -5
Harry Wolf , I tried to leave a comment, but it said that only staff can. My comment, regarding Petal Throne, is below Tekumel/EPT is an esoteric subniche of a subniche of a niche in our hobby. I can't imagine the dedicated fan community -- that is, those who have more than a passing curiosity in the setting -- can really spread its attention around too much at once. The Tekumel Discussion Group (Yahoo group), the descendant of the Blue Room mailing list, has more hardcore "scholarly" discussion of setting minutiae, at least as I remember it. I haven't been a list member since the early 2000s, but it still looks active and lively.
There are also flurries of activity on the ODD74 (Original D&D Discussion) board, which include more of what you mention in your quote -- EPT/Tekumel as it relates to the early development and play of OD&D.
The Yahoo groups are so limited and difficult to use and all the posts are in one long thread I gave up on them a long time ago. At one time I belonged to 12-15 but the difficulty of following a conversation or going back to a specific spot to re-read things made me swear off them. |
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Post by gnombient on Sept 13, 2018 9:39:09 GMT -5
Same here, I haven't subscribed to any for years.
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Post by Harry Wolf on Sept 13, 2018 10:57:46 GMT -5
Harry Wolf , I tried to leave a comment, but it said that only staff can. My comment, regarding Petal Throne, is below Tekumel/EPT is an esoteric subniche of a subniche of a niche in our hobby. I can't imagine the dedicated fan community -- that is, those who have more than a passing curiosity in the setting -- can really spread its attention around too much at once. The Tekumel Discussion Group (Yahoo group), the descendant of the Blue Room mailing list, has more hardcore "scholarly" discussion of setting minutiae, at least as I remember it. I haven't been a list member since the early 2000s, but it still looks active and lively.
There are also flurries of activity on the ODD74 (Original D&D Discussion) board, which include more of what you mention in your quote -- EPT/Tekumel as it relates to the early development and play of OD&D.
I think that ways the forum and the current IP holder has failed to engage with the fans explains why 11 Yahoo Groups with 60-800 members each did not rally around the Tekumel Forum. I don't remember, but there may have been an old Tekumel forum and it was deleted. That is never fan friendly. Just as the old Arduin forum was deleted. |
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Post by Harry Wolf on Sept 13, 2018 11:07:01 GMT -5
I just realized that I did not put the gadget on the page so people could mark themselves as followers of the blog. I have it up now.
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I didn't attend college, so you have me there. 
So we're "fighting" rather far above our weight class, but still doing fairly well.
To use the full range of current professional boxing weight classes we are a Light Flyweight (2nd Level) and we are being compared to two Bantamweights (5th Level) and a Lightweight (9th Level) out of a total of 17 Levels.
I wanna see this, you should start a thread just for this.
Among the four sampled boards including ours we are in fourth place by a small amount. Moving into third is very doable, and even moving in to second I expect to happen over the next year. Matching the board in first place by this one criteria is a matter of longevity, growth in membership, interesting topics and growth in the core of very active posters in no particular order. The analytics available will not really let me break it down further than that. It is my opinion that interesting topics is the key to the other three. 
