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Post by Keyone1234 on Sept 1, 2018 17:58:47 GMT -5
I ran across a post with this titled David Bressan tweeted: How to draw various landforms, from "Principles of Cartography" (1962) by Erwin Raisz
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Sept 4, 2018 11:50:21 GMT -5
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Post by Paper Labyrinth on Sept 4, 2018 12:09:23 GMT -5
Thanks, Ebon--you beat me to it! I enjoyed making that map. I'm thinking of making a bigger version that spans four sheets, to compare the two scales.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Sept 4, 2018 12:32:28 GMT -5
Thanks, Ebon--you beat me to it! I enjoyed making that map. I'm thinking of making a bigger version that spans four sheets, to compare the two scales. That sounds very nice, I also shared in on our G+ community & FB group, plus my public G+ account.
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Post by El Borak on Sept 4, 2018 17:22:48 GMT -5
Paper Labyrinth, these look really good, but the time you are ready to launch your Kickstarter you should have some pretty good buzz going.
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Post by ripx187 on Sept 4, 2018 17:36:30 GMT -5
I ran across a post with this titled David Bressan tweeted: How to draw various landforms, from "Principles of Cartography" (1962) by Erwin Raisz Yeah, I can't draw that LOL Typically I just use coloured pencils and symbols. Hexs make things much much easier. I do try to make a pretty map for players from time to time, but those are small-scaled village maps meant to highlight buildings and places somewhere where I know that we'll be spending lots of time in.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Sept 4, 2018 18:30:38 GMT -5
I ran across a post with this titled David Bressan tweeted: How to draw various landforms, from "Principles of Cartography" (1962) by Erwin Raisz Yeah, I can't draw that LOL Typically I just use coloured pencils and symbols. Hexs make things much much easier. I do try to make a pretty map for players from time to time, but those are small-scaled village maps meant to highlight buildings and places somewhere where I know that we'll be spending lots of time in. You need to show us some of your maps ripx187.
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Post by Paper Labyrinth on Sept 5, 2018 6:55:57 GMT -5
You need to show us some of your maps ripx187. I agree! I'm curious about those village maps, ripx187 .
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Post by ripx187 on Sept 5, 2018 17:48:03 GMT -5
I looked through my mess and found everything BUT that sheet of paper. I am assuming that one of my players kept it, which is fine. That was what it was for. If it turns up again I'll snap a picture of it.
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Post by El Borak on Sept 5, 2018 20:38:31 GMT -5
I looked through my mess and found everything BUT that sheet of paper. I am assuming that one of my players kept it, which is fine. That was what it was for. If it turns up again I'll snap a picture of it. Hopefully you'll run across it.
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Post by ripx187 on Sept 5, 2018 21:04:35 GMT -5
Most of the pretty things are made that way to give away. My players like collecting junk, I once made an aged and crude map drawn by an old toothless weretiger, including all of the writing in Burmeese. We DMs can be a crafty bunch!
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Post by Crimhthan The Great on Sept 14, 2018 9:10:13 GMT -5
Paper Labyrinth, when will the results of your playtesters be in? Do you have any info yet from them?
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Post by Crimhthan The Great on Sept 14, 2018 9:22:59 GMT -5
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Post by Paper Labyrinth on Sept 14, 2018 9:38:51 GMT -5
Paper Labyrinth , when will the results of your playtesters be in? Do you have any info yet from them? I sent the playtest kits out this week, so I hope to get some feedback by the end of the month. I've been quiet lately because I've been focusing on manufacturing methods. I may have found a CNC shop that can cut the rubber dies, which is exciting. That would let me produce a lot more sets, because I wouldn't have to cut out all the dies by hand.
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Post by Paper Labyrinth on Sept 14, 2018 9:40:12 GMT -5
I agree! That was a great article.
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Post by El Borak on Sept 14, 2018 17:42:02 GMT -5
Paper Labyrinth , when will the results of your playtesters be in? Do you have any info yet from them? I sent the playtest kits out this week, so I hope to get some feedback by the end of the month. I've been quite lately because I've been focusing on manufacturing methods. I may have found a CNC shop that can cut the rubber dies, which is exciting. That would let me produce a lot more sets, because I wouldn't have to cut out all the dies by hand. Yeah, you want to be able to meet what will hopefully be a huge demand for these.
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Post by El Borak on Sept 14, 2018 17:43:12 GMT -5
I agree! That was a great article. Yeah, you want people to be chomping at the bit, when you start the Kickstarter.
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Post by True Black Raven on Sept 19, 2018 8:25:23 GMT -5
I see some great updates on his site, I won't copy it all since you need to go look for yourself, but take a gander at this. Yes sir, he just expanded his market with some love for Traveller fans!
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Post by Paper Labyrinth on Sept 19, 2018 8:54:38 GMT -5
I see some great updates on his site, I won't copy it all since you need to go look for yourself, but take a gander at this. Yes sir, he just expanded his market with some love for Traveller fans! I made a few of those stamps earlier this summer. Here's a rough map of a sub-sector... The solar discs work well with ombre ink pads, which create that nice gradient effect.
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Post by El Borak on Oct 5, 2018 15:02:38 GMT -5
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Post by Paper Labyrinth on Oct 5, 2018 15:43:29 GMT -5
I got some great feedback from ripx187, who is one of the play-testers. I'm revising the stamps for Water, Grassland, and Desert. Once that's done, I'll make another prototype using a new manufacturer, who can cut the rubber dies. That's an exciting development, because it will let me produce a lot more stamps than if I was cutting them by hand. After the next prototype, I should be ready to make my final cost estimates, and choose pledge levels for the Kickstarter. I'll be going to Protospiel in November, so I've been kicking around some ideas for games that would use stamps. One of these was inspired by Blackmoor, and would have the players stamping out regions on a map while also drawing up armies, recruiting heroes, etc. It would be a collaborative world-building game with some call-backs to war-gaming. I haven't gotten far enough to post anything, though--it's a fun project, but I may have to put it back on the shelf so I can focus on the Kickstarter.
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Post by ripx187 on Oct 5, 2018 16:43:00 GMT -5
The playtest went fantastic, I do have a plan to write up a full and very positive review on my blog but currently time is an issue. Old Man Winter is coming!
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Nov 17, 2018 17:43:50 GMT -5
I checked the site but nothing new posted. Paper Labyrinth any updates on this? How close are you to launching the Kickstarter.
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Post by Paper Labyrinth on Nov 18, 2018 0:58:14 GMT -5
I'm planning to launch the Kickstarter in early January, after the holidays. The last prototype arrived today. This was a manufacturing test for the most part, but it included a few new designs, most notably a pair of 1/2" stamps depicting individual trees. There aren't enough for a full set at 1/2" scale, but the trees can still be used create mixed terrain.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Nov 18, 2018 14:46:15 GMT -5
I'm planning to launch the Kickstarter in early January, after the holidays. The last prototype arrived today. This was a manufacturing test for the most part, but it included a few new designs, most notably a pair of 1/2" stamps depicting individual trees. There aren't enough for a full set at 1/2" scale, but the trees can still be used create mixed terrain. Thanks, I will mark that on the calendar. Individual trees for mixed terrain, that is awesome. May I also suggest some stamps with different size and shape lakes that take up from 15% to 60% of a hex. Those could be placed with the individual trees to expand the mixed terrain options. I can't recall if you did a set of stamps for streams and rivers of different sizes and direction changes? There are so many things you could do, you could keep adding stamps for a long time to come. It is kind of wild that in the last 40+ years no one ever did this before. When you kick off the Kickstarter about a week before that you should give some of us with blogs a heads up and some art we can use in our blog posts to talk it up ahead of the start and then throughout the run. That way we can publicize it and talk it up the way you would like.
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Post by Paper Labyrinth on Nov 18, 2018 15:59:57 GMT -5
There are so many things you could do, you could keep adding stamps for a long time to come. It is kind of wild that in the last 40+ years no one ever did this before. I love working on the stamps, and if the basic set finds even a niche audience, it should be enough to support a few expansions. My long-term goal is to collaborate with other artists, creating a whole library of stamps, but I don't know if there will be enough of a market for that. I haven't seen other stamps like the ones I'm making, but I'm not the first person to create stamps as a game accessory. Green Dragon Studio released a set of "Dungeon Stamps" back in 2004-2006. Their stamps depicted dungeon furnishings like torches, tables, and chairs, and were meant to be used with wet-erase ink on battle-mats. I've been trying to contact the people who worked on that project, so far without success.
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Post by The Perilous Dreamer on Nov 19, 2018 13:46:39 GMT -5
I'm going to be shocked if this does anything less than really well.
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Post by Harry Wolf on Nov 27, 2018 15:28:11 GMT -5
I'm going to be shocked if this does anything less than really well. I think once this gets rolling, you should broaden your market. I think these things could make it into a wider hobby use beyond just RPG Mapping. An alphabet with ornate (but readable) letters would be really cool.
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Post by youngbuck on Nov 27, 2018 16:51:08 GMT -5
Maybe you should check and see what is out there for crafts and scrapbooking, those are huge hobbies, it might give you some ideas.
For maps you need a stamp that says "Here Be Dragons" and things like that.
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Post by Paper Labyrinth on Nov 28, 2018 9:54:03 GMT -5
The alphabet is a great idea. I’ve also considered creating a set of rune stamps, which might appeal to gamers and non-gamers alike.
One of the things that I love about stamps is their versatility. The possibilities really are endless. I don’t want to get too far ahead of myself, but I sometimes experiment with other designs. I'm headed to Protospiel Madison this coming weekend, and I'm looking forward to brainstorming ideas with board game developers. I’ve already been working on a few designs, including…
1. A deck of world-building cards, designed for use with or without the stamps. 2. A solitaire gamebook designed for use with the stamps, which takes the player on a pre-written hex-crawl.
As for the wider scrapbooking world, my sister-in-law is a scrapbooker, and I’ve had some interesting conversations with her about the hobby. We went to a scrap-booking convention last year, which gave me an idea of how other shops design and sell stamps. If all else fails, I can use my newfound stamp-making experience to create a set that depicts cats in yoga poses – that’s where the real money is!
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