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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 20, 2018 21:09:00 GMT -5
OOC: First all four of the halflings distrust human religious fanatics. Paladins are supposed to be the good guys, much better than a priest who the halflings expect to be corrupt, dishonest and abusive of power. So the Paladins, belligerent response instead of a humble response, just makes the halflings roll their eyes. They could care less if the Paladins diety was insulted, none of them are worshippers of any godling. He is well armed and armored and here is a woman intially on her knees and at a disadvantage, not that the bothers the halflings, if you are going to kill someone take every advantage you can get.
Togork assumes she is old since she is kneeling in the ashes. Togork loves to kill but listens to Gwindeth (mostly) about the appropriate time and place, but his hunger burns for it since it has been a while. The need builds and builds so he was anxious to get out of town before something happened that would bring him under human justice. Given human scruples, he assumes that anyone who kills the old woman would be fair game to kill.
Grimbane and Grimdeath silently made a bet about who kills who and when as per their long practiced custom.
Both Grimbane and Grimdeath did climb up on the wall platform and wall along it for a ways in opposite directions taking a really good look around.
Now with Sora and the woman they are watching and Togork might act depending on what happens.
The halflings do not for a moment consider Sora to have any authority.
They are still curious as to who the hairy man is as he has never introduced himself, but they don't view him as a threat. And the baby man they also don't view as a threat. Sora is a weird looking human aberation, and full of himself, but an adventure such as this should knock that nonsense out of him.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 21, 2018 22:41:44 GMT -5
This is what Sora looks like.
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Post by raikenclw on Aug 22, 2018 20:19:55 GMT -5
[OOC:
OOC: First all four of the halflings distrust human religious fanatics. Paladins are supposed to be the good guys . . .
Ever watch any of Clint Eastwood's spaghetti Westerns? I envision paladins as more akin to his Man With No Name. They ride in on a horse, kick the Bad Guy's butts - usually with some sadly unfortunate bystander casualties - then ride away again. Sora is different primarily in the fact that he talks a whole lot more.
much better than a priest who the halflings expect to be corrupt, dishonest and abusive of power. So the Paladins, belligerent response instead of a humble response,
Humble? A holy warrior is supposed to be *humble?* Wow. We are definitely not on the same page, then. Holy warriors are on a mission from God. They're the Blues Brothers with swords.
just makes the halflings roll their eyes. They could care less if the Paladins diety was insulted, none of them are worshippers of any godling. He is well armed and armored and here is a woman intially on her knees and at a disadvantage, not that the bothers the halflings, if you are going to kill someone take every advantage you can get. That's a very big problem with games that use hit points, in my opinion. Everyone automatically assumes that when you prepare for a fight you are preparing to kill. You can't just threaten someone with a beating, because a beating doesn't hurt them to any game-relevant extent. They're either fine and dandy or stone cold dead. Nothing in between.
Togork assumes she is old since she is kneeling in the ashes. Togork loves to kill but listens to Gwindeth (mostly) about the appropriate time and place, but his hunger burns for it since it has been a while. The need builds and builds so he was anxious to get out of town before something happened that would bring him under human justice. Given human scruples, he assumes that anyone who kills the old woman would be fair game to kill. So he's an animalistic savage. Check.
Grimbane and Grimdeath silently made a bet about who kills who and when as per their long practiced custom. So does the party get the money when they both lose? Knock the nonsense out of being in charge out of him? Not hardly. He'll just be saddened by his inability to rein in the savagery of his "followers" . . . and if said savagery seems to be edging into Worship of Chaos (which can be done unconsciously and without adopting any particular religion), he will then act accordingly. With truly felt regret, but sincere determination. ]
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 22, 2018 20:47:43 GMT -5
"Priests," grumbles Karba. "Pretty talk and taking money, but never doing anything to help. Where were you, beast priest, when bullies killed the weak?"
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Post by raikenclw on Aug 22, 2018 21:24:16 GMT -5
"Priests," grumbles Karba. "Pretty talk and taking money, but never doing anything to help. Where were you, beast priest, when bullies killed the weak?" Snorting out a surprised and frustrated breath, Sora says in a flat tone, "Bullies rob and kill the weak the World over, child. Regrettablely, this . . ."At this point, Sora gestures broadly at the surrounding devastation. " . . . is nothing special. As I said - *before your curse* - I regret that I and mine were not here earlier. It is our calling to rid the world of such scum. Unfortunately, we must walk or ride, just like everyone else. And I am not a priest, to hide in a temple and pray. I am a paladin, a warrior of Mulvigg."Sora shifts his stance slightly, settling his booted feet more firmly, then adds (still in that flat, dangerous tone): "And you still haven't answered my question: do you deny the insult?"Behind and above him, Josiah shifts his impressive weight with a soft grunt, causing his mule to sidestep half a pace, perforce pulling Sora's warhorse along with it. Without turning his gaze from the redhead before him, Sora adds in a neutral tone, "Don't you start. Chaos has many servants, including those unaware of What they Serve."
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 22, 2018 21:34:31 GMT -5
"You want to help? Help bury the dead. Then come find these bullies. Their tracks are everywhere and lead to and from thence." Karba waves her hand towards the ruins overlooking from the wall.
"She's right, you know, Big Fella" smiles Hunter. "They left a plain trail. I don't think they care if anyone finds them."
"Perhapd that is what they wish," whispers young Axel.
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Post by raikenclw on Aug 22, 2018 22:08:05 GMT -5
Ignoring the comments from those behind him, Sora continues to press the redhead: "I hear a lot of babble, but no admission of guilt or offer of an apology."[OOC: Presumably Karba wishes to join the party. Sora isn't going to go along with that until she admits her initial gafe and apologizes. In fact, Sora will try to administer a beating for impudence - using the flat of his sword on her rear end - if she continues to ignore this demand. "Try" of course being the operative word. ]
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Post by raikenclw on Aug 22, 2018 22:18:02 GMT -5
[OOC: Hunter = Harry? And Axel = Scribbler? As Mighty Darci has pointed out, those PCs never told anyone their names in-game. Are we just going to assume they did so at some point during our boat ride?]
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 22, 2018 23:46:48 GMT -5
[Hunter probably did; I doubt Axel looked up from his studies. Let's assume Hairy Hunter, the Hardboiled Hero spoke freely and introduced himself and his companion.]
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 22, 2018 23:56:29 GMT -5
Karba walks to a tree where she laid a shovel, drops the rest of the doll into an awkward three-foot long hole, and begins filling in the hole. If uninterrupted, she then thrusts a broken, partly-burnt board into one end of the tiny grave, then straps the war shovel to her back and climbs to the top of the wall. She holds a hand to shade her eyes, hops down on the other side, and strides down the oh-so-obvious trail.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 23, 2018 0:06:45 GMT -5
OOC: First all four of the halflings distrust human religious fanatics. Paladins are supposed to be the good guys, much better than a priest who the halflings expect to be corrupt, dishonest and abusive of power. Ever watch any of Clint Eastwood's spaghetti Westerns? I envision paladins as more akin to his Man With No Name. They ride in on a horse, kick the Bad Guy's butts - usually with some sadly unfortunate bystander casualties - then ride away again. Sora is different primarily in the fact that he talks a whole lot more. The halflings have never met a Paladin, so they are going by the stories (lies) that humans have told halflings about Paladins defending the weak and righting wrongs, they don't know there are different kinds of Paladins for different gods or anything about what Paladins are really like.(They haven't seen any Clint Eastwood movies either.)
So the Paladins, belligerent response instead of a humble response, just makes the halflings roll their eyes. They could care less if the Paladins diety was insulted, none of them are worshippers of any godling. He is well armed and armored and here is a woman initially on her knees and at a disadvantage, not that the bothers the halflings, if you are going to kill someone take every advantage you can get. Humble? A holy warrior is supposed to be *humble?* Wow. We are definitely not on the same page, then. Holy warriors are on a mission from God. They're the Blues Brothers with swords. The halflings are not familiar with your Paladin or his beliefs, they have been exposed to priests of some religion, which one they don't know, who taught that godly men are humble. The halfings are not on the same page, they are not supposed to be.
Togork assumes she is old since she is kneeling in the ashes. Togork loves to kill but listens to Gwindeth (mostly) about the appropriate time and place, but his hunger burns for it since it has been a while. The need builds and builds so he was anxious to get out of town before something happened that would bring him under human justice. Given human scruples, he assumes that anyone who kills the old woman would be fair game to kill. So he's an animalistic savage. Check. Sorry not even close, no cigar.
Grimbane and Grimdeath silently made a bet about who kills who and when as per their long practiced custom. So does the party get the money when they both lose? Just showing that these two bet with each other all the time about everything. It is part of who they are.
The halflings do not for a moment consider Sora to have any authority. Knock the nonsense out of being in charge out of him? Not hardly. He'll just be saddened by his inability to rein in the savagery of his "followers" . . . and if said savagery seems to be edging into Worship of Chaos (which can be done unconsciously and without adopting any particular religion), he will then act accordingly. With truly felt regret, but sincere determination. No, the halfings do not recognize or comprehend that Sora has any power or authority to make decisions for them, they don't understand any reason why he should. He is just another party member to them, but not in charge, they don't recognize any of the other members as being in charge, because so far they have no reason to respect any of you. The two (Grimbane and Grimdeath, kind of look to Gwindeth because obviously Togork (who does impress them) seems to follow Gwindeth or at least defer to her.
They are still curious as to who the hairy man is as he has never introduced himself, but they don't view him as a threat. And the baby man they also don't view as a threat. Sora is a weird looking human aberation, (prideful smug pretty boy) and full of himself, but an adventure such as this should knock that nonsense out of him. Now that we have a picture of Sora the halflings see him as a polished pretty boy, a dandy that thinks too highly of himself.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 23, 2018 0:08:34 GMT -5
"Priests," grumbles Karba. "Pretty talk and taking money, but never doing anything to help. Where were you, beast priest, when bullies killed the weak?" The halfings understand Karba, they would feel the same way in her shoes, not that they care overly much.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 23, 2018 0:12:25 GMT -5
Snorting out a surprised and frustrated breath, Sora says in a flat tone, "Bullies rob and kill the weak the World over, child. Regrettablely, this . . ."
At this point, Sora gestures broadly at the surrounding devastation. " . . . is nothing special. As I said - *before your curse* - I regret that I and mine were not here earlier. It is our calling to rid the world of such scum. Unfortunately, we must walk or ride, just like everyone else. And I am not a priest, to hide in a temple and pray. I am a paladin, a warrior of Mulvigg."Sora shifts his stance slightly, settling his booted feet more firmly, then adds (still in that flat, dangerous tone): "And you still haven't answered my question: do you deny the insult?"Behind and above him, Josiah shifts his impressive weight with a soft grunt, causing his mule to sidestep half a pace, perforce pulling Sora's warhorse along with it. Without turning his gaze from the redhead before him, Sora adds in a neutral tone, "Don't you start. Chaos has many servants, including those unaware of What they Serve." The halflings do not understand anything Sora is doing. Three watch, waiting for the outcome, Togork waits hoping for a kill. Based on his dapper dandy appearance, none of them are taking him serious as a fighter.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 23, 2018 0:14:05 GMT -5
"You want to help? Help bury the dead. Then come find these bullies. Their tracks are everywhere and lead to and from thence." Karba waves her hand towards the ruins overlooking from the wall. "She's right, you know, Big Fella" smiles Hunter. "They left a plain trail. I don't think they care if anyone finds them." "Perhapd that is what they wish," whispers young Axel. Three of the halflings are thinking, humans they talk and talk, way too much talk. Togork is ready to spring.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 23, 2018 0:15:39 GMT -5
Ignoring the comments from those behind him, Sora continues to press the redhead: "I hear a lot of babble, but no admission of guilt or offer of an apology."[OOC: Presumably Karba wishes to join the party. Sora isn't going to go along with that until she admits her initial gafe and apologizes. In fact, Sora will try to administer a beating for impudence - using the flat of his sword on her rear end - if she continues to ignore this demand. "Try" of course being the operative word. ] This is taking a long time and Togork is more on the edge with each passing second. Gwindeth remains oblivious to what is building right next to her.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 23, 2018 0:18:52 GMT -5
Karba walks to a tree where she laid a shovel, drops the rest of the doll into an awkward three-foot long hole, and begins filling in the hole. If uninterrupted, she then thrusts a broken, partly-burnt board into one end of the tiny grave, then straps the war shovel to her back and climbs to the top of the wall. She holds a hand to shade her eyes, hops down on the other side, and strides down the oh-so-obvious trail. As Karba walks to the tree, Togork gives a start, he is confused, will they not fight? Gwindeth suddenly realizes what is happening and starts talking in a low voice to Togork, holding his arm and distracting him from the others, she has done this before many times.
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 23, 2018 1:14:25 GMT -5
The halfings understand Karba, they would feel the same way in her shoes, not that they care overly much. [/font][/quote] [Nor would we expect them to care much about shoes.
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Post by raikenclw on Aug 23, 2018 1:46:26 GMT -5
[OOC: This is VERY strange and completely against how I've played PbP in the past. Despite the attitude and intentions CLEARLY expressed under my OOC tags, Chet apparently thinks Karba can turn her back on Sora without responding to his demand for an admission/apology and simply go her own way. Not happening . . .] As the redhead turns away from him, everyone hears Sora's sword clear its scabbard with the smooth hiss of steel on steel: *"You will apologize for your insult. Now. Or you will feel the flat of my blade on your skinny fanny."*[OOC: As I have commented above, a hit-point system gives a false sense of how people really react in violent situations. Sora intends to give Karba some major bruising unless she decides to behave like a civilized person and apologize. He has no intention of permanently harming her, much less any intention to kill her. Whether this game system can accurately reflect this intention is something I doubt.]
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Post by raikenclw on Aug 23, 2018 1:59:21 GMT -5
This board is behaving very wacky. I tried to leave " . . . if uninterrupted . . ." from the quoted text within the quoted block above.
And I also tried to point out that - since Sora IS interrupting Karba as soon as she turns away - the rest of her intended action can't take place, unless she wants Sora to attack her from behind.
But neither bit made it into the above post.
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Post by raikenclw on Aug 23, 2018 2:07:05 GMT -5
Futher Note: I am not trying to start a PC-on-PC fight. All Karba has to do is apologize for her insult and Sora will back down (although he will keep a suspicious eye upon this openly rebellious person from here on in). But since she doesn't appear ready to do that, it looks like there IS going to be some sort of physical confrontation. Should this actually happen, Josiah will not get involved unless others move to do so or it looks like Sora is going to be killed.
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Post by raikenclw on Aug 23, 2018 2:15:17 GMT -5
This is taking a long time and Togork is more on the edge with each passing second. Gwindeth remains oblivious to what is building right next to her. This is taking no longer than a typical confrontation scene in a T.V. show. I doubt that it's been more than a minute game-time since Karba's first words to the group.
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 23, 2018 2:36:47 GMT -5
[More OCC: Chet has no preconceptions and would probably never have talked sternly to a huge demon-looking guy with a whip. Karba is a comparatively young woman who, if if I'm portraying her correctly, has had enough of having men tell her what to do and be, even big horned demon-beasts who have her scared to death. She has never trusted priests to successfully protect or aid anyone, she gave up on the hope of strong men protecting the weak, and she is stunned by what she has seen today, especially the dismembered children.
[(That doll was a shocker to me - Well planted, Mr GM!)
[She's little more than a country bumpkin, if you will, and has never seen a halfling - and is appalled that the party has brought a couple of children into this holocaust.
[She has no knowledge of gods other than a few agriculture spirits who never seem much use. She definitely has not heard of a god of Travellers, whose name is mangled by her slovenly accent.
[None of this does Sora know. How could he? None of these characters know they're works of fiction and no Brian van Moose has related any PC's attributes or mental makeup. Karba isn't used to people and doesn't relate her thoughts aloud nor in thought balloons. She has a personality and a background; but she is a stranger.
[So Chet's neither offended nor surprised that Sora is offended and hostile. Let's have no more nonsense suggesting Chet is trying to offend another player. Strangers, especially in a primitive and violent world, aren't instant buddies.]
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 23, 2018 3:04:08 GMT -5
I was so focused on replying to the OOC thread I didn't see the development in the main thread. mormonyoyoman said: Glad you liked it, it made sense with the scene to add such atmospheric element. My campaigns tend to have grim themes but I try to take into account who I am running them for. I'll hint at things but I'll rarely portray certain things in scene, as I'd rather your imagination fill the gaps. I hope things will get to a point we can move forward soon but I'll let things play out organically, that said since Darci can't post daily if we want to get to the dungeon sooner than later things here will need to wrap up soon. I am intrigued by what is developing, you all have fertile imaginations & it is a joy to read your posts.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 23, 2018 8:39:52 GMT -5
Gwindeth is pulling Togork further away and telling him, human stuff leave it be, I know, I know, but leave it be, come. Togork slowly and reluctantly allows himself to be pulled away. They move toward the wall. Grimbane and Grimdeath trail along, along deciding to get away from the stupid humans and the odd one.
Gwindeth says, "Lets go check our surroundings, we don't want to have anything sneak up on us."
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 23, 2018 8:45:44 GMT -5
[She's little more than a country bumpkin, if you will, and has never seen a halfling - and is appalled that the party has brought a couple of children into this holocaust. OOC: Strike the part about children. Karba would not think any of the halflings are children as they are large rough looking fully adult Half-Orcs (three of them) and a really large Half-Ogre (larger than normal). They are halflings, half human and half something else and halfling is convenient shorthand and a joke too.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Aug 23, 2018 8:49:16 GMT -5
This is taking a long time and Togork is more on the edge with each passing second. Gwindeth remains oblivious to what is building right next to her. This is taking no longer than a typical confrontation scene in a T.V. show. I doubt that it's been more than a minute game-time since Karba's first words to the group. OOC: Time is relative, you are being too literal. To the halflings all the offended pride stuff just drags and drags on, they are bored. (The player is not bored, the player is fascinated, the characters are bored.) Don't over think it.
Oh and Hexenritter Verlag, I am going to try to jump on for a few minutes here and there, just to get us moving ASAP so I am not slowing this down. Once we get to the dungeon, I am assuming you will do what you are doing in the fight in the Traveller thread.
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 23, 2018 11:38:14 GMT -5
[She's little more than a country bumpkin, if you will, and has never seen a halfling - and is appalled that the party has brought a couple of children into this holocaust. OOC: Strike the part about children. Karba would not think any of the halflings are children as they are large rough looking fully adult Half-Orcs (three of them) and a really large Half-Ogre (larger than normal). They are halflings, half human and half something else and halfling is convenient shorthand and a joke too.[Error noted and have forehead-slapped myself. So used to Tolkeinites'complaints. Karba's heard of such things, just as she's heard of demons, but - assuming each of these things are minorities in this world - never seen either. The only monsters she saw growing up, were men. She's even more freaked out than I thought and really struggling to maintain her self-perceived calmness.]
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Post by raikenclw on Aug 23, 2018 11:42:45 GMT -5
[OOC: I'm not offended. I was just surprised that Chet wrote a post which appeared to ignore the whole precarious situation. Sora will definitely attempt to physically chastise Karba, if she doesn't immediately cough up an apology for cursing his god. (He didn't hear and wouldn't give a darn anyway about her initial "priests" murmur.) Since she seems to be quite articulate for a country girl and has been described as physically terrified of Sora, I expect that tendering such an apology should be no problem for the character.]
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 23, 2018 11:42:53 GMT -5
Karba: (looks over her shoulder, speaks puzzledly) "Insult?"
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 23, 2018 11:46:29 GMT -5
[i. e. - Karba has no clue that she offended the big demon-guy]
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