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Post by colinouchou on Jul 30, 2018 13:49:40 GMT -5
Sounds like the owners set you up to me. They should never have left the rugs in the apartment and unfortunately you have nothing in writing. OK so you lose some money because of not settling the issue of the rugs that first day, (like have the owners help you carry them out to the dumpster). So you lose some money, lesson learned. I do not understand why this should be an emotional crisis, it is just life and normal dealing with some people who will always try to get the best of you when they can in financial transactions. I lived in several different apartments and the landlord always tried to keep the deposit, after the first couple of times when I was first on my own, I learned to nail down everything in writing, take pictures of the each room before I moved my stuff in and write down a list of any problems and provided it to the landlord and keep my own copy (Xerox copy).
So now the ball is in your court and you'll have to make the decisions that you think are best. We all hope that it works out well for you.
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Post by ripx187 on Jul 30, 2018 14:14:29 GMT -5
Thanks, all who responded. The source of the problem is that we rented a furnished apartment (IKEA stuff, nothing fancy) and there were some rolled-up rugs in a corner. The owner told me we could trash the rugs, they didn't need them. Or we could use them. When my wife was home with our new infant (maybe 2 weeks old), her mother came to help us. After she left, she texted me in a panic, convinced that we had a bedbug infestation centered on the rugs and that this information had to be kept from wife - because she would panic and it would destroy her incipient relationship with the baby. Now, my wife has told me to push back against her mother when necessary (generally we get along, but she can get a little excited at times), and I did push back. But she was convinced, and tried to get me to keep my wife and baby out of the very room in which they were ensconced - without naming the problem. Well, I pushed back and pushed back because that was simply impossible ("Why don't we all sleep in the tub tonight? And every other night? And burn all our clothes and soak the place in pesticides? Just for fun."). Eventually my MIL decided, on the advice of a pharmacist, that it wasn't bedbugs but dust mites and that the problem would be resolved by getting rid of the rugs. So I said okay, the owners don't want them - if you convince my wife, make whatever arrangements tou want for the rugs. So my MIL talked my wife into the idea that the rugs were poisonous and the rugs were disposed of. 8 months later, we need to move out and the owners want ONE OF the rugs, saying they said we could toss only one of them, not the other "fancy" rug. So now they want to keep the bulk of our security deposit for this rug. So I didn't hide anything except the fact that her mother was temporarily obsessed with the idea of bedbugs. But what I haven't told her yet is how much money they want for this rug. I could probably get the owners to agree to seem to take only a small amount of the security deposit for the rug, and pay them the rest from my old personal savings account. The goal here is to prevent an emotional crisis. No mistress, no drug problems, no getting involved with criminals, no problem. If the landlord wanted that rug so bad he should have kept it out of your way. This had nothing to do with bad life choices. In the future, don't lie to your wife especially about petty stuff.
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Post by hengest on Jul 30, 2018 17:36:24 GMT -5
Thanks, all who responded. The source of the problem is that we rented a furnished apartment (IKEA stuff, nothing fancy) and there were some rolled-up rugs in a corner. The owner told me we could trash the rugs, they didn't need them. Or we could use them. When my wife was home with our new infant (maybe 2 weeks old), her mother came to help us. After she left, she texted me in a panic, convinced that we had a bedbug infestation centered on the rugs and that this information had to be kept from wife - because she would panic and it would destroy her incipient relationship with the baby. Now, my wife has told me to push back against her mother when necessary (generally we get along, but she can get a little excited at times), and I did push back. But she was convinced, and tried to get me to keep my wife and baby out of the very room in which they were ensconced - without naming the problem. Well, I pushed back and pushed back because that was simply impossible ("Why don't we all sleep in the tub tonight? And every other night? And burn all our clothes and soak the place in pesticides? Just for fun."). Eventually my MIL decided, on the advice of a pharmacist, that it wasn't bedbugs but dust mites and that the problem would be resolved by getting rid of the rugs. So I said okay, the owners don't want them - if you convince my wife, make whatever arrangements tou want for the rugs. So my MIL talked my wife into the idea that the rugs were poisonous and the rugs were disposed of. 8 months later, we need to move out and the owners want ONE OF the rugs, saying they said we could toss only one of them, not the other "fancy" rug. So now they want to keep the bulk of our security deposit for this rug. So I didn't hide anything except the fact that her mother was temporarily obsessed with the idea of bedbugs. But what I haven't told her yet is how much money they want for this rug. I could probably get the owners to agree to seem to take only a small amount of the security deposit for the rug, and pay them the rest from my old personal savings account. The goal here is to prevent an emotional crisis. No mistress, no drug problems, no getting involved with criminals, no problem. If the landlord wanted that rug so bad he should have kept it out of your way. This had nothing to do with bad life choices. In the future, don't lie to your wife especially about petty stuff. I didn't lie to her. I omitted her mother's temporary obsession with bedbugs and I delayed telling her the price the landlord was asking for the precious rug, but now I've told her both those things. Somehow, I survived...
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Jul 30, 2018 18:30:02 GMT -5
No mistress, no drug problems, no getting involved with criminals, no problem. If the landlord wanted that rug so bad he should have kept it out of your way. This had nothing to do with bad life choices. In the future, don't lie to your wife especially about petty stuff. I didn't lie to her. I omitted her mother's temporary obsession with bedbugs and I delayed telling her the price the landlord was asking for the precious rug, but now I've told her both those things. Somehow, I survived... I am glad things went well, anxiety can make things seem worse than they are.
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Post by raikenclw on Jul 30, 2018 19:59:44 GMT -5
My mother has been a landlord for 20 years, thereby making me one by default. I've never heard of anything remotely like what this landlord just tried to pull. Sounds to me like they are the sort to regard your damage deposit as income and therefore are looking for any excuse to keep it. Did they ever furnish you with the bank and account number into which said deposit have been placed (as is legally required here)?
BTW: If you tossed the rugs by placing them in the dumpster you normally use, the landlord may very well have retrieved them from said location and then thought of charging the cost of one of them against your deposit. He gets to keep the rug AND your money!
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Post by hengest on Jul 30, 2018 21:29:57 GMT -5
My mother has been a landlord for 20 years, thereby making me one by default. I've never heard of anything remotely like what this landlord just tried to pull. Sounds to me like they are the sort to regard your damage deposit as income and therefore are looking for any excuse to keep it. Did they ever furnish you with the bank and account number into which said deposit have been placed (as is legally required here)? BTW: If you tossed the rugs by placing them in the dumpster you normally use, the landlord may very well have retrieved them from said location and then thought of charging the cost of one of them against your deposit. He gets to keep the rug AND your money! They never did provide such information. I'm not sure whether it's required here. Anyway, sorry to derail the thread...as of 24 hours ago, this seemed like a much bigger crisis. Now I just have to wait for their reply to our "counter-offer"...
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Post by El Borak on Jul 30, 2018 23:01:50 GMT -5
Sounds like you are in a much better place, and no you did not derail the thread.
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 7, 2018 13:43:03 GMT -5
It's my turn to derail a thread. Any thread. Just got released from a very short stay at the good old veteran's hospital last night and am phasing between awake and asleep all today. I may not be back online for another 24 hours or I could pop up in a few hours depending on how I continue to respond to physickers and clerics ministering of the past 30 hours.
Until consciousness sets in for more than 20 minutes at time. Carry on.
As 007 and Thanos movies say, Grumpy old Sgt Chet will return.
Carry on.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 7, 2018 14:03:07 GMT -5
You are in my thoughts and please take care Chet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 19:32:51 GMT -5
Take care and speedy recovery Chet.
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Post by simrion on Aug 8, 2018 4:42:46 GMT -5
Prayers and positive thoughts your way Chet
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Post by raikenclw on Aug 8, 2018 19:36:17 GMT -5
Take care, Chet!
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 9, 2018 0:20:38 GMT -5
A gracious good afternoon and a big ol' THANK YOU to all of you well-wishers. Whatever the original bite was from, I didn't do myself any favors by waiting over a week to have it looked at - and poked, gouged, with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back - -
Excuse me. It appears that I'm still delirious.
So I have a new navel just to my left of the original navel, more aptly called "a hole in your gut a little smaller than a dime." Three different antimoronics, a couple of relaxants, and an Orphan Annie Ovaltine Shake-Mug. And a new habit of sleeping 2-3 hours, waking (groggy) for 2-3 hours, then repeating.
So if my pbp PCs make some foolish decisions, know that they are suffering my drugged state by proxy. I hope to be detoxed by the time of my follow-up next Monday.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Aug 9, 2018 19:17:16 GMT -5
Take care Chet, look after yourself and take your time getting back to us.
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Post by raikenclw on Aug 9, 2018 23:41:25 GMT -5
Take care Chet, look after yourself and take your time getting back to us. I concur with this sentiment!
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Post by Admin Pete on Aug 10, 2018 7:43:18 GMT -5
A gracious good afternoon and a big ol' THANK YOU to all of you well-wishers. Whatever the original bite was from, I didn't do myself any favors by waiting over a week to have it looked at - and poked, gouged, with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back - - Excuse me. It appears that I'm still delirious. So I have a new navel just to my left of the original navel, more aptly called "a hole in your gut a little smaller than a dime." Three different antimoronics, a couple of relaxants, and an Orphan Annie Ovaltine Shake-Mug. And a new habit of sleeping 2-3 hours, waking (groggy) for 2-3 hours, then repeating. So if my pbp PCs make some foolish decisions, know that they are suffering my drugged state by proxy. I hope to be detoxed by the time of my follow-up next Monday. I see you are channeling a little Arlo Guthrie, can I get some of that stuff too? Hope that you are feeling better soon and back to normal, well not normal really, but normal for you.
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 10, 2018 8:21:11 GMT -5
"Normal" is just a setting on the dryer.
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Post by Jakob Grimm on Aug 18, 2018 15:29:53 GMT -5
How is your healing going Chet ( mormonyoyoman) we need an update?
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Aug 18, 2018 20:26:58 GMT -5
Therapy, warm compresses, a reduction in what limited physical activity I had been permitted, one further hospital stay for 24 hours which I barely remember, more powerful antibiotics, and physical therapy/torment starting Tuesday.
But I finally got to see Infinity War and reminded why I haven't liked Thanos since the 1960s. Everybody wanted to imitate Darkseid for awhile.
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Post by El Borak on Sept 1, 2018 10:27:30 GMT -5
mormonyoyoman, how are you doing? Haven't seen you in a few days, hope you are alright. Other members how are you doing, we do want to know. Post and let us know if there is anything you need encouragement for.
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Post by Hexenritter Verlag on Sept 1, 2018 12:14:05 GMT -5
mormonyoyoman , how are you doing? Haven't seen you in a few days, hope you are alright. Other members how are you doing, we do want to know. Post and let us know if there is anything you need encouragement for. I was also wondering how Chet was, as the last I heard he had a series of tests at the hospital. I hope he is fine and just busy with family, church and taking care of himself.
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Sept 5, 2018 18:07:08 GMT -5
Tried to find this thread. Couldn't so posted urpdate in "the Adventures of MormonYoYoMan." Brain hurt.
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Post by El Borak on Sept 11, 2018 10:07:50 GMT -5
Tried to find this thread. Couldn't so posted urpdate in "the Adventures of MormonYoYoMan." Brain hurt. If you need to, start a new thread and then I can merge it here, mormonyoyoman.
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Post by raikenclw on Sept 11, 2018 20:31:27 GMT -5
Tried to find this thread. Couldn't so posted urpdate in "the Adventures of MormonYoYoMan." Brain hurt. In order to keep up, I click on "Participated" each time I visit, then on anything with the "New" tag. Of course, I don't actually participate in very many different threads, so keeping up is not usually much of a challenge.
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Post by mao on Sept 12, 2018 7:55:55 GMT -5
Tried to find this thread. Couldn't so posted urpdate in "the Adventures of MormonYoYoMan." Brain hurt. Get well YOYO, come back when you are ready and not a min. early. My prayers are with you.
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Post by Mighty Darci on Sept 13, 2018 23:22:09 GMT -5
Tried to find this thread. Couldn't so posted urpdate in "the Adventures of MormonYoYoMan." Brain hurt. Get well YOYO, come back when you are ready and not a min. early. My prayers are with you. Mine are as well!
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Sept 14, 2018 19:03:10 GMT -5
Thank you, every one of you.
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Post by Admin Pete on Sept 15, 2018 17:22:22 GMT -5
Thank you, every one of you. Just keep taking care of yourself.
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Post by raikenclw on Sept 16, 2018 21:47:58 GMT -5
Thank you, every one of you. Just keep taking care of yourself. What he said!
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Post by True Black Raven on Sept 19, 2018 8:03:59 GMT -5
Ongoing prayers for mormonyoyoman. Does anyone else have anything going on that we can support you in?
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