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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 15, 2017 12:58:00 GMT -5
The OOC player map discussions can go here in this thread so it will not clutter the main thread, please reach consensus and this post any questions or comments in the main thread.
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Nov 16, 2017 22:44:16 GMT -5
Shiyazthar studies the maps closely, imagining the trails and paths in POV, committing as much as possible to memory. "And what, sir, do you wish us to fetch from this cavernous dwelling?"
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Post by Richard on Nov 17, 2017 2:08:48 GMT -5
Sora is interested in the yellowish stains on the maps. Any idea what they could be? And "some weird things" is a bit uninformative. Are we facing simple beasts? Humanoids with organization and functioning traps? Undead under the control of a master vampire? A tad more information would be helpful.
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Post by Richard on Nov 17, 2017 2:12:37 GMT -5
Also, I forget: Is there a ranger in the party? I ask because "a huge boulder near some big trees" with the start of the faint trail lying over a hundred yards into the woods *behind* this "can't miss it" marker sounds like something for a ranger. Sora and Josiah are confident that they would walk right by this point, given this description.
If we don't have a ranger, I suggest we continue on to the obvious turn-off, then when we reach the main entrance circle around the base of the cliff until we reach this back door.
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Post by magremore on Nov 20, 2017 6:05:03 GMT -5
Shiyazthar studies the maps closely, imagining the trails and paths in POV, committing as much as possible to memory. "And what, sir, do you wish us to fetch from this cavernous dwelling?" Wy is wondering too.
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Post by magremore on Nov 20, 2017 6:10:43 GMT -5
Also, I forget: Is there a ranger in the party? I ask because "a huge boulder near some big trees" with the start of the faint trail lying over a hundred yards into the woods *behind* this "can't miss it" marker sounds like something for a ranger. Sora and Josiah are confident that they would walk right by this point, given this description. If we don't have a ranger, I suggest we continue on to the obvious turn-off, then when we reach the main entrance circle around the base of the cliff until we reach this back door. Studying the map still, but Wy is not opposed to the above plan if it comes down to it. Does Graytusk have more details about the boulder and larger trees—do they tower over all else?
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Nov 20, 2017 6:56:38 GMT -5
(Dang it, where do the out of character comments go? The only thing I find concerns a Traveller pbp. I think I need some sleep or more IQ points.)
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Post by Warrior Twin One on Nov 20, 2017 10:30:57 GMT -5
Shiyazthar studies the maps closely, imagining the trails and paths in POV, committing as much as possible to memory. "And what, sir, do you wish us to fetch from this cavernous dwelling?" Wy is wondering too. Herv reminds his partners of the ogre's bargain.
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Post by Warrior Twin One on Nov 20, 2017 10:33:19 GMT -5
Also, I forget: Is there a ranger in the party? I ask because "a huge boulder near some big trees" with the start of the faint trail lying over a hundred yards into the woods *behind* this "can't miss it" marker sounds like something for a ranger. Sora and Josiah are confident that they would walk right by this point, given this description. If we don't have a ranger, I suggest we continue on to the obvious turn-off, then when we reach the main entrance circle around the base of the cliff until we reach this back door. Shiyazthar is an experienced trapper (or so he says) so finding the trail shouldn't be too hard. I am not so sure that we wouldn't have to back track to reach that door. The real question is do we want to use the back door? If so how much more will the ogre tell us.
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Post by Warrior Twin Two on Nov 20, 2017 11:18:56 GMT -5
Tuck is also in favor of knowing more about what we will face when or if we enter the dungeon and the indicated place.
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Post by Richard on Nov 21, 2017 1:11:34 GMT -5
(Dang it, where do the out of character comments go? The only thing I find concerns a Traveller pbp. I think I need some sleep or more IQ points.) Unless I misunderstood the post in which our GM provided the link to this thread, THIS is the OOC thread in which we - the players - are to discuss the map and make all relevant comments. Thus the thread's title of " Player Map Discussions" (boldface mine). That is to say, we players are posting here, not our characters.
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Post by Richard on Nov 21, 2017 1:23:00 GMT -5
The real question is do we want to use the back door? I thought of that, too. This "back door" appears to lead directly into a LOWER dungeon level. While that might be fine for a band of (4+ HD) ogre, a band of 1st level adventurers with no real magic and only one(?) magic-user might not want to use THAT particular entry point. If so how much more will the ogre tell us. Yeah! Because - as it stands now - he's basically told us how to kill ourselves in a rather inconvenient fashion . . . since anything that can take out most of a 4th-level (e.g. eight 4HD ogres) party can deal with us without even waking up all the way.
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 21, 2017 8:14:42 GMT -5
(Dang it, where do the out of character comments go? The only thing I find concerns a Traveller pbp. I think I need some sleep or more IQ points.) Unless I misunderstood the post in which our GM provided the link to this thread, THIS is the OOC thread in which we - the players - are to discuss the map and make all relevant comments. Thus the thread's title of " Player Map Discussions" (boldface mine). That is to say, we players are posting here, not our characters. You are correct.
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Post by makofan on Nov 21, 2017 10:08:17 GMT -5
Sliggoth thinks we should scout out the main entrance first, before trying the back door
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 21, 2017 18:08:14 GMT -5
The NPC's will in most cases go along with the PCs assuming it does not look like suicide or too high of a risk. Please note specific questions and phrasing of said questions and then when you think you are ready, post those in the main thread for your "answers".
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Post by makofan on Nov 24, 2017 9:14:41 GMT -5
It looks like we have a map, food, water and weapons, so let's head out and see what happens along the way
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Nov 24, 2017 19:42:02 GMT -5
Yup. Who wants to live forever? Well, in mortality that is?
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Post by Richard on Nov 25, 2017 2:55:14 GMT -5
It looks like we have a map, food, water and weapons, so let's head out and see what happens along the way Sora would *really* prefer for the ogre to give us more details about what we face. However, since he must know that's what we want and yet he hasn't already given such, Sora *also* strongly suspects that anything he tells up *now* will be - at best - deliberately shaded toward making the job seem easy. Because if he told us the truth, we would likely turn it down. So Sora and Josiah would agree that getting going is the next logical step. However, before leaving Sora would also want to tell the ogre something along the lines of, "Should our party meet the same fate as yours (e.g. most becoming casualties), don't expect to see your loot."
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Post by Warrior Twin One on Nov 27, 2017 17:13:48 GMT -5
Because - as it stands now - he's basically told us how to kill ourselves in a rather inconvenient fashion . . . since anything that can take out most of a 4th-level (e.g. eight 4HD ogres) party can deal with us without even waking up all the way. If ogres are 4 HD creatures in this campaign. We are told the orcs are Lawful, is the ogre Lawful?
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Post by Warrior Twin One on Nov 27, 2017 17:14:20 GMT -5
It looks like we have a map, food, water and weapons, so let's head out and see what happens along the way Sounds good to me.
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Post by Warrior Twin One on Nov 27, 2017 17:15:05 GMT -5
Yup. Who wants to live forever? Well, in mortality that is? I do!
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Post by Warrior Twin Two on Nov 27, 2017 17:18:07 GMT -5
It looks like we are ready to wind up the meeting with the ogre and get this underway.
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Post by makofan on Nov 30, 2017 11:25:13 GMT -5
OK, this is what I have put together Sora, Deveuil (reptilian) fighting man Richard Herv, Hulcanian fighting man Warrior Twin One Tuck, Human cleric Warrior Twin Two Wy, Human magic-user magremore Shiyazthar, Human fighter mormonyoyoman Kavita, Elf magic-user mormonyoyoman Sliggoth, Nagitherian fighter makofan Varien, elf fighter-magic-user ffilz Josiah, fighting man henchman of Sora 3 orc hirelings some wagons and mules4 mules ogre guards Any corrections? Let's get a marching order
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Post by Admin Pete on Nov 30, 2017 12:31:51 GMT -5
Sora, Deveuil (reptilian) fighting man Richard Herv, Hulcanian fighting man Warrior Twin One Tuck, Human cleric Warrior Twin Two Wy, Human magic-user magremore Shiyazthar, Human fighter mormonyoyoman Kavita, Elf magic-user mormonyoyoman Sliggoth, Nagitherian fighter makofan Varien, elf fighter-magic-user ffilz Josiah, fighting man henchman of Sora Three orcs in for a share of treasure Aaryan - Orc Fighter Arax - Orc Fighter Ardas - Orc Fighter Three nephews of Graytusk in for a half share of treasure plus the items for Graytusk Krewugrut - Ogre Fighter Nuakog - Ogre Fighter Mogruk - Ogre Fighter
I don't recall any wagons, but there are three mules that Graytusk provided for the party plus a mule just for the three nephews for a total of four mules. A wagon will run 200 SP if you want to add one.
As a reminder the ogres are there primarily to guard the mules and the camp and it is up to you all if you want to work out any switches between ogres, orcs and PCs as to who does what. The ogres are young and while very strong are not fully adult yet.
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Post by Warrior Twin Two on Dec 2, 2017 16:54:52 GMT -5
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Dec 2, 2017 17:29:04 GMT -5
Just about any mulching order will be fine with me.
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Post by Admin Pete on Dec 2, 2017 17:41:15 GMT -5
Just about any mulching order will be fine with me. Garden much!
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Post by Richard on Dec 4, 2017 1:06:14 GMT -5
Because - as it stands now - he's basically told us how to kill ourselves in a rather inconvenient fashion . . . since anything that can take out most of a 4th-level (e.g. eight 4HD ogres) party can deal with us without even waking up all the way. If ogres are 4 HD creatures in this campaign. We are told the orcs are Lawful, is the ogre Lawful? True. But this campaign has been advertised as OSR. Also - and more to the point - there has been no mention of bouncers or such like in the descriptions of this tavern. But it has been described as a place which seems to specialize in serving a wide variety of travellers (e.g. adventurers). This tells me that it must be common knowledge among such individuals that ogres - such as the owner/barman here - are TOUGH bastards.
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Post by Richard on Dec 4, 2017 1:08:50 GMT -5
Just about any mulching order will be fine with me. Garden much! I think that's a prediction, not a typo. As in, the order in which the party gets ground into tiny bits has little relevance to mormonyoyoman.
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Post by Admin Pete on Dec 4, 2017 7:31:44 GMT -5
If ogres are 4 HD creatures in this campaign. We are told the orcs are Lawful, is the ogre Lawful? True. But this campaign has been advertised as OSR. Also - and more to the point - there has been no mention of bouncers or such like in the descriptions of this tavern. But it has been described as a place which seems to specialize in serving a wide variety of travellers (e.g. adventurers). This tells me that it must be common knowledge among such individuals that ogres - such as the owner/barman here - are TOUGH bastards. I never said it was OSR, it is old school OD&D in the vein that I have been running since 1975. Old experienced ogres such as the owner/bartender are very tough possibly way more than 4 HD, young ogres are tough but likely less then 4 HD, average mature ogre is likely 4 HD. Just because I didn't mention bouncers does not mean there are none. Just as because I did not mention the other customers does not mean there were none. I could have added 2000 words to the bar if everyone wanted to read all of that. But that would slow things way down and this is not that kind of game. Be wary of the assumptions that you make and you can ask questions any time you want.
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