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Post by Mighty Darci on Feb 8, 2017 16:22:29 GMT -5
What are the spells/methods for creating clerical magic items? What level are they? How do you obtain/learn them. What are the rituals and secrets surrounding creating these items?
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Post by hengest on Mar 3, 2017 11:26:03 GMT -5
Totally different set of spells / effects. No castable clerical spell can be stored in an item, and no item-spell or effect can be used / cast without that item.
As much as possible, item-magic and casting-magic should not overlap or duplicate each other.
One could separate it out by domain - healing magic can be cast only with "laying on of hands" (no item), while other clerical spells require an item.
Possible detail: non-healing magic used through item not "charged" with the spell, but used as a focus.
Example: Cure Light Wounds castable by touch. Light, on the other hand, requires a torch or lantern...it just works really steadily and well and without any source of fuel. This leaves healing as the only obvious "miracle."
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Post by The Red Baron on May 13, 2017 20:26:24 GMT -5
Magic-users make them at the cost of gold and x weeks of time. Example prices are given in the first few pages of Men & Magic.
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Post by Mighty Darci on May 13, 2017 23:17:59 GMT -5
Magic-users make them at the cost of gold and x weeks of time. Example prices are given in the first few pages of Men & Magic. I am actually looking for things that people do that are different or goes beyond what is in the 3LBBs. Just for ideas, sometimes its nice to have something to tell your players that helps them get a greater buy in to what you are doing. |
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Post by mormonyoyoman on May 14, 2017 14:05:37 GMT -5
What are the spells/methods for creating clerical magic items? What level are they? How do you obtain/learn them. What are the rituals and secrets surrounding creating these items? I obtain my clerical supplies at Office Depot. |
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Post by Mighty Darci on May 14, 2017 21:46:31 GMT -5
What are the spells/methods for creating clerical magic items? What level are they? How do you obtain/learn them. What are the rituals and secrets surrounding creating these items? I obtain my clerical supplies at Office Depot. That would explain why you were asked to take a vow of silence.  |
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Post by mormonyoyoman on May 14, 2017 22:12:32 GMT -5
At least they asked nicely.
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Post by Mighty Darci on May 15, 2017 7:25:45 GMT -5
At least they asked nicely. And so you left your clerical vows behind and found a new career. |
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Post by mormonyoyoman on May 15, 2017 13:29:30 GMT -5
I put them in a storage unit in Arkansas.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 13:54:16 GMT -5
I obtain my clerical supplies at Office Depot. That would explain why you were asked to take a vow of silence. A hit, a palpable hit! |
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Post by mormonyoyoman on May 15, 2017 18:15:30 GMT -5
That would explain why you were asked to take a vow of silence. A hit, a palpable hit! She sunk my Battleship! (TM) |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 18:30:09 GMT -5
That's either a misfortune, or a really smutty entendre...
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Post by robkuntz on May 15, 2017 18:41:35 GMT -5
That's either a misfortune, or a really smutty entendre... Kinda like: Does youre wife know that you're still up? (in which i combine both of what you allude to as well as asking a question) |
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Post by mormonyoyoman on May 15, 2017 20:40:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 22:21:44 GMT -5
Yes, we know. I just like my version better.
"Hey, sailor, wanna let me sink your battleship in my Ocean of Pleasure?"
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Post by Mighty Darci on May 15, 2017 22:39:41 GMT -5
I put them in a storage unit in Arkansas. I see, as far from civilization as you could get! When you bury something deep, you don't stint on anything do you? |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 23:07:07 GMT -5
"bury something deep," hurr hurr hurr...
(Yes, I'm 62 going on 13. I admit it.)
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Post by robkuntz on May 16, 2017 3:09:39 GMT -5
"bury something deep," hurr hurr hurr... (Yes, I'm 62 going on 13. I admit it.) And I repeat. Does your wife know you are still up? |
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Post by Admin Pete on May 16, 2017 7:15:17 GMT -5
"bury something deep," hurr hurr hurr... (Yes, I'm 62 going on 13. I admit it.) And I repeat. Does your wife know you are still up? She's out buying chloroform right now. She's heard enough. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 10:33:23 GMT -5
She just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.
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Post by robkuntz on May 16, 2017 11:06:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 11:18:34 GMT -5
Gotta watch those rolling eyes, one of the cats might bat one under the sofa.
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Post by Admin Pete on May 16, 2017 12:31:44 GMT -5
Mighty Darci, it appears that we have really derailed this thread, do you want me to move the derailed part to another thread or leave it as is?
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Post by mormonyoyoman on May 16, 2017 16:18:17 GMT -5
Gotta watch those rolling eyes, one of the cats might bat one under the sofa. You can't hide those flying eyes, And your smell's a thing disguise. Thought by now you'd realize There ain't no way to roll those flying eyes. (Derail threads? I?) |
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Post by Mighty Darci on May 17, 2017 7:07:19 GMT -5
Gotta watch those rolling eyes, one of the cats might bat one under the sofa. You can't hide those flying eyes, And your smell's a thing disguise. Thought by now you'd realize There ain't no way to roll those flying eyes. (Derail threads? I?) All of you! And I helped! So back on topic, I want an idea or suggestion from each of you!  |
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Post by robkuntz on May 17, 2017 8:22:45 GMT -5
You can't hide those flying eyes, And your smell's a thing disguise. Thought by now you'd realize There ain't no way to roll those flying eyes. (Derail threads? I?) All of you! And I helped! So back on topic, I want an idea or suggestion from each of you! I suggest suggesting. |
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Post by captaincrumbcake on May 20, 2017 17:42:13 GMT -5
What are the spells/methods for creating clerical magic items? What level are they? How do you obtain/learn them. What are the rituals and secrets surrounding creating these items? Wow, this is like, asking the designer of the titan class ships to describe how to make a boat. There are so many variables, from sect to sect, deity to deity, and all that goes between. I guess, to start somewhere, I would not let clerics of-- a non-warrior type deity the ability to make magic weapons. a death deity the ability to make healing items (staves, potions, etc.) And go with this pattern of logic. |
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Post by Mighty Darci on Jun 1, 2017 11:23:31 GMT -5
What are the spells/methods for creating clerical magic items? What level are they? How do you obtain/learn them. What are the rituals and secrets surrounding creating these items? Wow, this is like, asking the designer of the titan class ships to describe how to make a boat. There are so many variables, from sect to sect, deity to deity, and all that goes between. I guess, to start somewhere, I would not let clerics of-- a non-warrior type deity the ability to make magic weapons. a death deity the ability to make healing items (staves, potions, etc.) And go with this pattern of logic. That is exactly what I am looking for, different takes on running it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 13:07:31 GMT -5
OD&D has a section in Volume 1 on how to make magic items, with some examples.
I'd use the same process for clerical magic items, except that the caster must be at least a Wizard/Patriarch instead of "merely" a Wizard.
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Post by scottanderson on Jun 19, 2017 13:54:21 GMT -5
I don't have any special rules for cleric magic items. You have to make them in a church instead of a lab, but the process is the same.
Fighting Men can make weapons and armor in their castles at level 9. If they want spells on them and not just plusses, they need to hire a spell caster to do that part.
elves have to max out magic user (level 8) to make items.
Dwarfs and hobbits have NPC spell casters but they never adventure. Neither kind of PC can make his own items.
But anyone can commission one, if they have the resources.
As far as what spell, you just have to agree between the player and Ref. A Mace of Sleep (!?) would require the Sleep spell for instance.
If your man wants an item that doesn't have a spell analog, get as close as you can and then maybe there's a quest involved for a special ingredient. Everybody likes a fun quest.
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